Game changing stabilizing device?

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I've seen at least two others in videos. One disappeared, the other is becoming the BeSteady. They've said that pricing will be announced in 2 weeks, with a DSLR version and another for cameras up to 4kg.
https://www.facebook.com/besteadyhome?fref=ts

They've got some solid video off their two-axis prototype, so it'll be interesting to see where it comes in
 
I guess, time to dust off some old threads.... Movi is announced to release in 30days.
 
Paul F said:
They don't. There are several pros and cons to these gadgets.
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Hmm, maybe I'll hold off on selling the ole steadicam then. It seems so magical and easy to use yet.. hm lol

or mount it to my vest/arm. but that sounds like a whole mess of other issues now haha idk what to do !! the video looks like it handles running very smoothly tho so wtf
 
They are not easy to use at all and in fact are probably much harder to use than a stabilizer. The demo videos do not tell you the real story.

Take the 3 axis gimbal. Without the 'follow me' mode or remote control, the camera remains pointed in one direction. It can't be pointed at anything.
The follow me mode adds a delay in the gyro so that if the gimbal is moved in a direction for a set period of time (1/2 second?), the camera will move in that direction. That makes it nearly impossible to follow action as you have to pan/tilt in advance of the action. So this would have to be rehearsed several times. In live action, there would be no way to follow the action as the camera is always lagging behind.

To eliminate the delay, a joystick can be used that moves the camera. The problem with this is that it is difficult for an operator to run a joystick and the gimbal at the same time. It's not intuitive as stabilizer movement is. So that means a second operator is necessary to control the pan/tilt. Even then, joystick control from a remote with fast action is very difficult. Professional remotes used on a crane use the same gear handles that you find on a geared head tripod. The more you move the handle, the more the camera moves in a direction. You control speed by spinning the handle faster. Its intuitive. With a joystick, the more you move the joystick, the faster the camera moves. There is no direct control of position with a joystick. That is less intuitive and takes more practice.
 
Silenkiller said:
How do these handle vertical movements, like up and down when you are walking? Thats the strength of steadicam..
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They don't, and it should be added that this is the hardest to fix in post as it involves parralax, whereas pan-tilt errors, especially small ones, can much more easily be stabilized to perfection. There is a place for Movi (but it's more specialty) and a place for Steadicam, and the place for Steadicam is a much wider range of uses. You could conceivably shoot an entire 90-minute show on Steadicam, on Movi, not really/crazy idea.
 
Well, I'm still impressed with the demo footage I've seen. I guess the operator is just really good at absorbing the up/down movements with their arms.
 
Yeah that looks good too. I don't know what to do really. Mounting one on a steadicam arm seems awesome but, I think we need some people to buy these and post more reviews/footage before I at least buy one.

Gosh if I could just demo one of these.
 
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Sorry fore replying at the tail end on this post, The Chinese have one out alread http://www.goodluckbuy.com/3-axis-dslr-brushless-gimbal-carbon-fiber-handle-camera-mount-w-5208-brushless-motor-for-fpv-photography.html at the price of $483.61 including shipping
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IF you want the DIY version which has no handles or bars at the top of the unit it will cost $103 including free shipping,
All it will cost to get it working is a bit of time a very few dollars and you have you own unit much cheaper . I may be wrong but some of these companies are just importing similar units and rebrand it and selling it on at at a very high price. I found this on many occasions with other products which I have bought over the net these days.
http://www.goodluckbuy.com/3-axis-fiberglass-ptz-5n-7n-gh2-brushess-gimbal-for-muiltcopter-fpv-photography-lg-002-.html



 
Paul F said:
So that means a second operator is necessary to control the pan/tilt. Even then, joystick control from a remote with fast action is very difficult. Professional remotes used on a crane use the same gear handles that you find on a geared head tripod. The more you move the handle, the more the camera moves in a direction. You control speed by spinning the handle faster. Its intuitive. With a joystick, the more you move the joystick, the faster the camera moves. There is no direct control of position with a joystick. That is less intuitive and takes more practice.
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It's a tiny bit off-subject but I would hesitate to say that for most, operating a joystick is more intuitive than the wheels. I've had far less time working with joysticks than my 12 or so years of day-in, day-out geared head use, but when I had to learn the joystick for a particular job, the learning curve was quite a bit quicker. I would expect for those who have grown up with video games, it would be quicker still.
 
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