Fuji X-T3 released

yoclay said:
Thanks. This is true even for shooting 4K / 60 fps ?
Also, what is your take on it with the Ninja Flame ?
I really wish that my Pix-E5 supported this camera...
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No problems with the Prograde cards and 4K 60p so far. For my shooting, personally, I would never hassle with an external recorder with the XT-3, that's largely why I bought it. All you would be gaining is ProRes and 4:2:2 color space versus 4:2:0. If I am shooting green screen for clients, that's what the C200 is for. I bought the XT-3 for gimbal and for shooting my own stock footage and my own documentaries where I need to go small and inconspicuous. For the C200, I still have a Ninja Blade laying around for 4:2:2 ProRes client green screen in 1080 and if they need 4K green screen, I shoot Cinema RAW Light.
 
In light of Atomos/Nikon announcing ProRes RAW recording. Here's my quick take on the practicality of ProRes RAW on Fuji X cameras.

Fuji uses a X-Trans CFA that's different from standard Bayer sensor, it's likely not compatible with ProRes RAW (whitepaper specifically says Bayer RAW). Even it could be compatible, based on Fuji's RAF RAW stills performance, it's likely to be very difficult to record and decode.

So my take is: Nah ain't gonna happen.
 
mcgeedigital said:
What you are describing is the "worming" that Lightroom's sharpening does to the XT-3's raw file.

Since it doesn't have an aliasing filter like some cameras, Lightroom's sharpening tends to screw with it.

There are workarounds:

https://exploringexposure.com/blog/sharpening-fujifilm-raw-files/
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FWIW, for any of you having the "worming" issue with Lightroom and your XT-3 .RAF files, I downloaded the Iridient Software X-Transformer conversion utility and the results look perfect going into and coming out of Lightroom, even my old antique version of Lightroom. Highly recommended and well worth the $29.99.

Thank you for the links Matt Gottshalk!
 
Grug said:
Does the PIX-E5 not work with the X-T3?
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It does not have the protocol for Rec Trigger. Which means that you have to hit rec on both the camera and the Pix.
I have asked Video Devices to put it on their development list, but it could be quite some time before it gets implemented, if ever.
It may also mean that they have to enter into an agreement with Fuji, because none of their cameras appear to be on the supported list.
 
yoclay said:
It does not have the protocol for Rec Trigger. Which means that you have to hit rec on both the camera and the Pix.
I have asked Video Devices to put it on their development list, but it could be quite some time before it gets implemented, if ever.
It may also mean that they have to enter into an agreement with Fuji, because none of their cameras appear to be on the supported list.
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Have you actually tried PIX-E5 with X-T3? Because HDMI rec command is an universal standard in CEC. It's not proprietary with Fuji. If the rec trigger works with other mirrorless cameras, it should work with X-T3.
 
marvinhello said:
Have you actually tried PIX-E5 with X-T3? Because HDMI rec command is an universal standard in CEC. It's not proprietary with Fuji. If the rec trigger works with other mirrorless cameras, it should work with X-T3.
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That's not what the tech support said from Video Devices.
I am still waiting for my X-T3.
 
yoclay said:
That's not what the tech support said from Video Devices.
I am still waiting for my X-T3.
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Well let us know how you go.

I bought the Fujis to act as hybrids, splitting duties between stills work and the odd Ronin-S job (when production won't pay for a steadicam op). But if the performance is there I'd love to be able to use them as primary cameras on Branded Content or Docu/Talking Head jobs (the small size/weight holds a LOT of appeal).

Audio is the big issue on that front though, and the PIX-E5 paired with the PIX-LR module seems like the perfect solution for a simple, unified system for video and audio.

That said, I've just learnt that the PIX-LR module has been discontinued. And they're doing a very good (clearance-esque) price on the PIX-E5s at B&H at the moment. So I do wonder if Video Devices are about to release something a little more up-to-date (4k @ 60p, 1000+ NITs brightness)?
 
Grug said:
Well let us know how you go.

I bought the Fujis to act as hybrids, splitting duties between stills work and the odd Ronin-S job (when production won't pay for a steadicam op). But if the performance is there I'd love to be able to use them as primary cameras on Branded Content or Docu/Talking Head jobs (the small size/weight holds a LOT of appeal).

Audio is the big issue on that front though, and the PIX-E5 paired with the PIX-LR module seems like the perfect solution for a simple, unified system for video and audio.

That said, I've just learnt that the PIX-LR module has been discontinued. And they're doing a very good (clearance-esque) price on the PIX-E5s at B&H at the moment. So I do wonder if Video Devices are about to release something a little more up-to-date (4k @ 60p, 1000+ NITs brightness)?
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I asked the tech guy and he replied "I'm not sure if there hardware limitations to get the PIX to 60fps, but I'll add that to our Feature Request list as well."

I agree the LR unit is very convenient. However, I sense that it wasn't a big seller.
 
puredrifting said:
FWIW, for any of you having the "worming" issue with Lightroom and your XT-3 .RAF files, I downloaded the Iridient Software X-Transformer conversion utility and the results look perfect going into and coming out of Lightroom, even my old antique version of Lightroom. Highly recommended and well worth the $29.99.

Thank you for the links Matt Gottshalk!
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Glad it worked out for ya brotha!

ETA I'll be printing some 13x19 shots from my trip to NZ this weekend, and I am really impressed with this camera.

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Question about this camera. Is it possible to get a more neutral look with this camera? Not that I dislike the color science, but everything I've seen from this camera has a certain look about it and I'm curious if that's always baked in, or can you get an uncoloured look from it?
 
NorBro said:
You can shoot F-Log for a flatter look or 'Eterna' for what some call a more neutral look.
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Eterna is a film simulation based on Fuji's actual Eterna film stock (http://www.fujifilm.com/products/motion_picture/lineup/eterna500/)

It's Rec709 with that look baked in, so not "neutral" per se, but it's designed to look finished with no color work needed. FYI that's only the film simulation that a lot of people prefer for cinematic video work; You can bake in any of the film sims in-camera to taste. I personally also love the Velvia and Provia film stocks (I shoot 35mm stills in both on my film camera too).
 
Batutta said:
Question about this camera. Is it possible to get a more neutral look with this camera? Not that I dislike the color science, but everything I've seen from this camera has a certain look about it and I'm curious if that's always baked in, or can you get an uncoloured look from it?
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The look that you're probably seeing is "Eterna" which is the default movie color profile and has a certain punchiness to it. You can opt to shoot Log and grade away. Here's a downloadable file to test yourself: https://vimeo.com/288859983
 
Fahnon said:
Eterna is a film simulation based on Fuji's actual Eterna film stock (http://www.fujifilm.com/products/motion_picture/lineup/eterna500/)

It's Rec709 with that look baked in, so not "neutral" per se, but it's designed to look finished with no color work needed. FYI that's only the film simulation that a lot of people prefer for cinematic video work; You can bake in any of the film sims in-camera to taste. I personally also love the Velvia and Provia film stocks (I shoot 35mm stills in both on my film camera too).
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Neutral is always REC709 when discussing picture profiles in a stills camera. It's either LOG or everything else, and 'Eterna' is on the neutral side rather than say 'Velvia', which is more crushed & saturated, or another simulation.

Nevertheless the Fujis have very stylized looks.
 
Batutta said:
Question about this camera. Is it possible to get a more neutral look with this camera? Not that I dislike the color science, but everything I've seen from this camera has a certain look about it and I'm curious if that's always baked in, or can you get an uncoloured look from it?
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Saturation is definitely more pronounced on the Fuji cams, but what I like is that the highlights seem to retain more chroma info as well, so you can actually do something with the highlights in post if you want.
 
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