FS700 with new 3.0 firmware - S-LOG2, raw, 4k and R5 recorder

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I had an opportunity to test FS700 with new 3.0 firmware which enables S-LOG2 and 4k raw recording with additional HXR-IF5 interface unit and AXS-R5 recorder which I also had. Here are the tests I did.

High ISO noise test with various gammas (S-LOG2, CINE4, CINE2) with downloadable ProRes file.
FS700 firmware 3.0 ISO test
S-LOG2 was tested from ISO 2000 to ISO 25600, CINE4 tests go from ISO 640 to ISO 16000 and CINE2 from ISO 320 to ISO 8000. I shoot mostly CINE4 gamma and I didn’t want to go higher that ISO 1250 before. Looking at this footage I might go to ISO 5000 (S-LOG2), ISO 2500 (CINE4) and ISO 2000 (CINE2) without using any noise reduction software. This tests are completely unscientific and are based on my observations by eye and not using any instruments.

A test comparing S-LOG2 and CINE4 shooting on two cameras simultaneously (with ungraded S-LOG2 and CINE4 files).
S-LOG2 vs. CINE4
I used completely the same exposure settings on both cameras. Both had ISO set to the lowest setting possible depending on the gamma selected. S-LOG2 had ISO 2000 and CINE4 had ISO 640. That is why I am sceptical about the high ISO value at S-LOG2 gamma as both had quite the same highlight levels except black were substantially higher with S-LOG2. So you cant say that you get additional 1 2/3 stops when shooting S-LOG2 as you need it to expose the footage properly.

I also did a shoot completely in raw shooting super speed 4k and continuous 2k on R5 recorder and AXSM 512 GB card (downloadable 4k and 2k dlx frames, and two 2k raw clips).
Raw FS700
Workflow, file sizes and working with the HXR-IF5 interface unit and AXS-R5 recorder. The footage is not yet edited but you can see a few files and downloads footage for your own inspection.

More info and downloads in the links above.
 
Peter,

Some lovely tests. Quick question though, in the 4K dpx and looking at the distribution of values, the top 20% is pretty much empty. Is that a workflow issue from the RAW viewer, or an exposure choice with the camera?

cheers
Paul
 
Hey Paul,

It is true the bottom 10% and the top 20% are empty, but it is a 16bit DPX file so there shouldn't be any problems as there are still enough information for a decent grade.
I only applied S-Gamut/Linear colour space in the Sony RAW Viewer and exported dpx. I guess If I would export to an 8bit file I would need to be more careful with the distribution of the values.

Later,
Peter!
 
I would like to see more test with this setup. With steadycam or with a relatively important camera movement. What about the DR and color compared to a F5? cinmeatic feeling compared to a F55?

All these questions i have been struggling to get answer to without answer. Even Sony has not given any answer if they plan to sell a 4g package ready or not soon...

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Hotel palace show - shot in 4k and 2k raw on FS700

https://vimeo.com/71493749

4k raw download links available on the link below.

http://blog.domisljije.si/2013/08/01/hotel-palace-show/
 
Hey Paul,

It is true the bottom 10% and the top 20% are empty, but it is a 16bit DPX file so there shouldn't be any problems as there are still enough information for a decent grade.
I only applied S-Gamut/Linear colour space in the Sony RAW Viewer and exported dpx. I guess If I would export to an 8bit file I would need to be more careful with the distribution of the values.

Later,
Peter!

The files are great to work with, but if the camera is packing 12 bits into 16 bits then you should still get range from 0 to max, it's just the steps would be coarser. My question is more about whether the workflow is either truncating or compressing the values in some way. I appreciate you didn't have a lot of time with the set up and the stuff you go was really good.

cheers
paul
 
Hey Peter, any advice on getting the .mxf files working in Premiere CS6...if you happen to use that?
 
Heu Guys.
I bought the FS700R on July, the firmware is 3.01. Is that ready for 4k or I have to send it to Sony in case of want to shoot 4k (with the sony recorder or 7Q)?
Thank you.
 
Heu Guys.
I bought the FS700R on July, the firmware is 3.01. Is that ready for 4k or I have to send it to Sony in case of want to shoot 4k (with the sony recorder or 7Q)?

Another thing is I heard that with the latest firmware update, the FS700 is a "low light monster". Is that my case, with this 3.01 version? Cause when I use it in low light situation with Cine 4 and 3200 ISO I get a lot of grain and a considerable definition loss. Do you guys have something to do about it?
Cheers.
 
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