I wasn't aware that makes a difference... Will have to reconsider shooting everything in -I again.
FS7: FS7 and editing workstation discussion thread
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ChristopherA
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Going back to the Hackintosh discussion, I've built quite a few of them. I love using them for 3D render machines because it lets me build a custom machine with exactly the hardware specs I need for a lot cheaper than a pre-built one. I think the total cost of my last machine was about $500 and had a 3.5Ghz i7 and 32GBs of RAM.
I will say that much of that savings goes away if you are trying to build a well-rounded machine. My render machines could use old, small HDDs I had around the office. And while I needed a very fast processor, my 3D renderer doesn't use the graphics card, so I just have integrated graphics. You can see how things would quickly add up.
The other thing I will say about my Hackintoshes is that no-one ever works at them. As a result they have to consistently boot, open C4D's net render application, and shut down. Once they were setup, these machines have had no problem with that.
The process of setting up a Hackintosh really isn't bad. This website is a phenomenal resource to anyone trying it out: http://www.tonymacx86.com/. They cover what hardware to purchase, they have step-by-step guides, and their forums are filled with people that have gotten questions answered.
Most problems with Hackintoshes arise from variations in hardware. I bought identical pieces to build 4 machines at once—three of them worked without issue, but the fourth required troubleshooting because the motherboard was a slightly different version of the same model. Expect that you will likely need to troubleshoot your system to get it up and running, but that should just involve reading the onscreen logs and finding a forum post detailing how to fix it.
I will say that much of that savings goes away if you are trying to build a well-rounded machine. My render machines could use old, small HDDs I had around the office. And while I needed a very fast processor, my 3D renderer doesn't use the graphics card, so I just have integrated graphics. You can see how things would quickly add up.
The other thing I will say about my Hackintoshes is that no-one ever works at them. As a result they have to consistently boot, open C4D's net render application, and shut down. Once they were setup, these machines have had no problem with that.
The process of setting up a Hackintosh really isn't bad. This website is a phenomenal resource to anyone trying it out: http://www.tonymacx86.com/. They cover what hardware to purchase, they have step-by-step guides, and their forums are filled with people that have gotten questions answered.
Most problems with Hackintoshes arise from variations in hardware. I bought identical pieces to build 4 machines at once—three of them worked without issue, but the fourth required troubleshooting because the motherboard was a slightly different version of the same model. Expect that you will likely need to troubleshoot your system to get it up and running, but that should just involve reading the onscreen logs and finding a forum post detailing how to fix it.
SpareWheel
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I wonder how many of those with playback issues aren't using fast enough drives...
Quite correct Ben. But what the hell, no place here for girly chat is there (rhetorical). See my post #45. Guess you didn't or perhaps you did
For 4K (on Adobe CC 2014) increase your disk I/O through-put read/write speeds and the most economical way to do that is through a RAID 0 disk setup, better still 4-6 disks at SATA2 or top it with a 4 way SATA3 to increase beyond 800MB/s+ with hardware RAID controller. There is no need in this day and age of disk technology to go SCUSI or 10K RPMs - SATA3 WD Blacks 64GB cache types already provide.
Increase your RAM to 32GB 1800 minimum and get youself a Nvidia GTX 980 (as you have) with MOBO on PCI Buss Version3 or something with 4GB of VRAM PCI Version 3 other than wasting your money on a Quadro K4000 - they saw you coming. It's about memory bandwidth - have you compared this spec recently?
I love my Intel i7 Hex 970 3.2Ghz - but they force me to buy into the latest in order to get the other goodies (more MOBO RAM slots and V3 PCI Bussing).
Claire
Quite correct Ben. But what the hell, no place here for girly chat is there (rhetorical). See my post #45. Guess you didn't or perhaps you did
For 4K (on Adobe CC 2014) increase your disk I/O through-put read/write speeds and the most economical way to do that is through a RAID 0 disk setup, better still 4-6 disks at SATA2 or top it with a 4 way SATA3 to increase beyond 800MB/s+ with hardware RAID controller. There is no need in this day and age of disk technology to go SCUSI or 10K RPMs - SATA3 WD Blacks 64GB cache types already provide.
Increase your RAM to 32GB 1800 minimum and get youself a Nvidia GTX 980 (as you have) with MOBO on PCI Buss Version3 or something with 4GB of VRAM PCI Version 3 other than wasting your money on a Quadro K4000 - they saw you coming. It's about memory bandwidth - have you compared this spec recently?
I love my Intel i7 Hex 970 3.2Ghz - but they force me to buy into the latest in order to get the other goodies (more MOBO RAM slots and V3 PCI Bussing).
Claire
I have a different case. Because I need to cut it and export it on the move (and I think a lot of people too) my hardware constrains cannot be change.
Macbook Pro Retina, late 2013, maxed out.
16GB, Geforce 750M 2GB, 1TB, i7
I need to squeeze out the fastest speed out of this system. Let's sum up till this moment:
- FCPX a lot faster then PP or Resolve
- XAVC-I faster then -L
- fast drives
Has anyone of you tried dual thunderbolt connection? Let's say one for scratch disk, another for footage.
What are recommended drives or cases? OWC? G-drives?
No Lacie please. Reviews put that drives in terrible light- they're extremely unreliable.
Macbook Pro Retina, late 2013, maxed out.
16GB, Geforce 750M 2GB, 1TB, i7
I need to squeeze out the fastest speed out of this system. Let's sum up till this moment:
- FCPX a lot faster then PP or Resolve
- XAVC-I faster then -L
- fast drives
Has anyone of you tried dual thunderbolt connection? Let's say one for scratch disk, another for footage.
What are recommended drives or cases? OWC? G-drives?
No Lacie please. Reviews put that drives in terrible light- they're extremely unreliable.
SpareWheel
Active member
But isn't this precisely the probelm? The NLE providers (in Adobe's case) in their latest iteration demanding of modile/laptop devices. Bolt on Thunder' whatever can only be as fast as the interface between host and the external pipe infrastructure. Third Parties are frassled just to keep up.
Was it thus to cut on the fly and expect to get such performance - has the laptop met it's nemesis? Perhaps some are pushing the bounderies beyond realism - perhaps there is a point to say "no" shoot the damn stuff and send it back to base. Perhaps some are pushing the workflow beyond that which technoogly is capable of handling. Perhaps there is a time for some pause and catch-up?
Perhaps some are not working within the current parameters of technology - there is currently a gap which needs to be filled.
Lots of perhaps...
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mainstreetprod
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Not an expert, just going by what I've read- that "I" is comparatively easy to edit and "L" has small file sizes but is processor intensive