CallaghanFilms
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agreed.
For Blade Runner fans
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Christopher Barry
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I hope they eventually bring the BR FC reel(s) to theatres down under.
Lo fa, ne-ko shi-ma de va-ja blade.... Blade Runner.
Lo fa, ne-ko shi-ma de va-ja blade.... Blade Runner.
Blaine
Mr. Hollywood
What's In A Name (Title)
What's In A Name (Title)
Alien started out life as Star Beast.
and another Ridley Scott offering started out as:
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, then Android, then Mechanismo before being renamed Dangerous Days. It was at this time that Ridley Scott came aboard. He was dissatisfied with the name and Hampton Fancher saw a book by William Burroughs titled Blade Runner: (a movie). Scott had producer Michael Deeley approach Burroughs about using the title and Dangerous Days became Blade Runner.
What's In A Name (Title)
Alien started out life as Star Beast.
and another Ridley Scott offering started out as:
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, then Android, then Mechanismo before being renamed Dangerous Days. It was at this time that Ridley Scott came aboard. He was dissatisfied with the name and Hampton Fancher saw a book by William Burroughs titled Blade Runner: (a movie). Scott had producer Michael Deeley approach Burroughs about using the title and Dangerous Days became Blade Runner.
Yeah, put me down as another bloke who much prefers the original theatrical release to the directors cut. Not only do I not mind the vo (as I agree with the other poster - it gives it that 40's noir vibe), but I think the theatrical cut is much tighter than the sloppy directors cut that's been out on dvd so far (and I imagine the other final and final final and final final final final directors cuts to come will be just so much self-indulgence, and even more meandering hopelessly spread out gunk).
Folks, sometimes it helps to have another pair of eyes in the editing room, and not all directors are capable of objectivity or are in tune with what'll actually play to the human aesthetic sense. Certainly Ridley Scott is hit and miss in that department. When the studio decided to recut Blade Runner, they had some good instincts in this particular case.
Anyhow, I'm certainly not one to dogmatically believe "all directors are always right and all studios are always wrong". I use my eyes and my judgment, and don't give a sh|t about what is the "fad" opinion of the day, or the PC opinion ("the direeeectors viiiiision, bla, bla, bla"). In this case, IMHO, the original theatrical release cut is the best (though obviously not flawless). So, meh on the coming releases, as far as I'm concerned.
Folks, sometimes it helps to have another pair of eyes in the editing room, and not all directors are capable of objectivity or are in tune with what'll actually play to the human aesthetic sense. Certainly Ridley Scott is hit and miss in that department. When the studio decided to recut Blade Runner, they had some good instincts in this particular case.
Anyhow, I'm certainly not one to dogmatically believe "all directors are always right and all studios are always wrong". I use my eyes and my judgment, and don't give a sh|t about what is the "fad" opinion of the day, or the PC opinion ("the direeeectors viiiiision, bla, bla, bla"). In this case, IMHO, the original theatrical release cut is the best (though obviously not flawless). So, meh on the coming releases, as far as I'm concerned.
J.R. Hudson
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Barry_S said:
Really ?
I totally like Redux. It adds a ton I think.
Tainted
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Whether you like or dislike the VO, you've got to admit that the tacked-on happy ending of the theatrical release sucks beyond belief considering the plot of the rest of the movie. IMHO, that travesty of an ending sucks way worse than the removal of the VO any day of the week. And personally, I find even the possibility that Deckard was a rep (as in the DC) tantalizing -- whether the viewer believes it or not, the fact that it is ambiguous leaves a lot for the viewer to take in and try to figure out for themselves making for an even more complex story.
And BTW, the new transfer has been out on video for a while now, I think you can pick it up for $10 on Amazon, and it is ONE HELL OF A TRANSFER now -- compared to the old transfer it almost looks like HD. So, although we had to endure no good copy of either the OC or the DC versions for years, at least there's a HQ version available now (the extended/enhanced version is still to come, and not sure if it'll be released to HD, but the newer transfer with DD is already legally available today). And, FWIW, the plot/scenes in the "new" DC haven't changed AFAIK, just color correction and things like that.
And BTW, the new transfer has been out on video for a while now, I think you can pick it up for $10 on Amazon, and it is ONE HELL OF A TRANSFER now -- compared to the old transfer it almost looks like HD. So, although we had to endure no good copy of either the OC or the DC versions for years, at least there's a HQ version available now (the extended/enhanced version is still to come, and not sure if it'll be released to HD, but the newer transfer with DD is already legally available today). And, FWIW, the plot/scenes in the "new" DC haven't changed AFAIK, just color correction and things like that.
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Christopher Barry
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FC version in due course will mean more choices and possibly more controversy. mmm, controversy, perhaps one of the greatest marketing tools, and it's usually free.
Tainted, whilst the unicorn raises both for and against the prospect of Deck being a replicant, the OC may also propose the prospect of this interpretation when Gaff says: "You've done a man's job, sir!". Indeed this could be interpreted in a few ways, amongst a heap of other parts of the movie, which ever version.
I read somewhere that the controversial OC ending, the aerial shot was taken from outtakes of Kubrik's "The Shining".
The Ultimate DVD release with 3 versions & BTS, can't wait, pick your favorite, that's cool, imo.
Tainted, whilst the unicorn raises both for and against the prospect of Deck being a replicant, the OC may also propose the prospect of this interpretation when Gaff says: "You've done a man's job, sir!". Indeed this could be interpreted in a few ways, amongst a heap of other parts of the movie, which ever version.
I read somewhere that the controversial OC ending, the aerial shot was taken from outtakes of Kubrik's "The Shining".
The Ultimate DVD release with 3 versions & BTS, can't wait, pick your favorite, that's cool, imo.
lookwhoiknow
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Ok I have to chime in here. Just want to say Blade Runner is my favorite movie and is one of the movies that got me interested in making my own. I prefer the Director's Cut and dislike the happy ending of the theatrical release. I have the Directors Cut DVD as well as a burned DVD copy of the 10th anniversary International Cut version from VHS (my own VHS I owned). I will definitely see it in theaters if it ever happens.
At the Museum of The moving picture in Queens NY, they have a huge piece of the Tyrell corporation building Model. its GORGEOUS with insane detials.
KingVidiot
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Blaine said:
I grew up loving the original since that's all there was. I like the idea of the noir voiceover, however whether it's the writing, or Ford, or both, it always seemed cheesy in many parts ("What the hell was happening to me?" Bleccch!). It also served to "spoonfeed" those that don't pay attention and don't like to figure things out for themselves. I often find that insulting even in great movies.
I really enjoyed seeing the director's cut in the theatres when it first came out. It had a few nice extra scenes, extra music, and the voiceover was gone, so you could be sucked in without being distracted at times by the silly monologue. The ending change was a big plus as well. Happy endings in movies are way overrated. Life just doesn't work that way most of the time.
Elton
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One of my favorite movies too. Can't wait for the HD DVD--that'll push me to buy the player. You can get one at Costco for $349 now. 
I like the original theatrical release best too. Bladerunner has one of the most absorbing ambient soundtracks ever; not just Vangelis' score, but the entire ambience of the film.
Some of the greatest visuals in scifi history--or cinema, for that matter.
I like the original theatrical release best too. Bladerunner has one of the most absorbing ambient soundtracks ever; not just Vangelis' score, but the entire ambience of the film.
Some of the greatest visuals in scifi history--or cinema, for that matter.
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Christopher Barry
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Timur, when you say "a huge piece of the Tyrell corporation building Model", how much of it is left?TimurCivan said:
I recall reading Cinefex number 9, whole edition dedicated to BR, and said words to the effect, they (production) had just filmed all the multiple building pass (for subsequent optical composite) when the model building caught fire, from all the lights inside it. Sounds like The House of Wax set, except we watched the actual studio soundstage burn to the ground.
