Finally shutter control???

Nicky

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Hey guys I recently got a link that boasts FULL manual control including the hard to get shutter control!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsgSeMucogo

I dont have the 5dmk2 anymore so Im hoping someone can PLEASE try this out and let us know... also do a test where a repeatable 1/50th shutter is CLEARLY obtained (no more slow shutter nonsense please)
 
The problem with this method is that live view is set to stills display which I believe its showing you the shutter speed and iso for when you take a picture, not the movie settings. While it will lock the exposure but we can't be sure what shutter/iso combination it is.
 
To check the recording ISO/Shutter combination, you can half-press the shutter button while the camera is recording the video. Thanks
 
To check the recording ISO/Shutter combination, you can half-press the shutter button while the camera is recording the video. Thanks

This is incorrect.

When you half-press the shutter release button while the camera is recording video - the display will show you the settings for still images.
 
Video has two modes. They seem to be often regarded as similar but this is not true.

Exposure Simulation will give you incorrect values
Movie Mode will give proper values. Not always completely accurate depending on the circumstance. As long as shutter > 1/30 it's somewhat reliable.
 
what is the best way to identify 1/50th most precisely on it then?

1. Have very good lighting
2. Make sure the camera is selecting ISO 100 (must be ISO 100!)
3. Lock AE using the * button
4. Use the back dial to adjust exposure compensation to -1 (or -2 for 1/60th which is a 180 degree shutter at 30fps)
 
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how can i be certain that iso is 100, since the values its showing in movie mode by half pressing the shutter release are pic related values only?

i'm getting 5D tomorrow, yay! are there any settings that need to be changed on it before shooting video? (e.g. nikon d90 AE-L settings had to be changed for it to lock exposure and keep it)?
thx
 
how can i be certain that iso is 100, since the values its showing in movie mode by half pressing the shutter release are pic related values only?

i'm getting 5D tomorrow, yay! are there any settings that need to be changed on it before shooting video? (e.g. nikon d90 AE-L settings had to be changed for it to lock exposure and keep it)?
thx

Check out the link I posted above.. it has a better explanation of how the camera handles ISO/shutter/etc in video mode, and how to work around it. It's really quirky and takes a lot of getting used to. Basically you can use the shutter button to get a "rough estimate" of the ISO setting, but it's not necessarily the same setting it is choosing for video mode (because those settings don't get displayed). So, you basically are forced to have superb lighting conditions, cross your fingers and hope the camera is actually selecting ISO 100.

In the end, the camera still takes amazing quality video for how cheap it is. It's a shame that the controls are just plain awful. More like an experimental prototype. But, it is a still camera first and foremost, and it performs that task wonderfully.
 
"very good lighting" is an abstraction. what's good for one scene, is terrible for another...

what if i put a closet light nicely diffused in front of the lens? it being still bright and even - should drive the ISO down to 100? but i'm wondering that if it will drive the shutter to being the fastest too and then compensation wont work.

i wonder if anyone has tried an iphone app, smth like GreyCard to get 1/50th shutter?
or like this one
http://www.doapps.com/products/iPhone/myLite/
 
"very good lighting" is an abstraction. what's good for one scene, is terrible for another...

Obviously. In this context we're just talking about having enough light available to force the camera to select a low ISO. You can use a simple flashlight or LED to trick it if you like. But you'll still need plenty of light for your scene to turn out when the camera is locked at that low of an ISO.

You'll see what I mean when you get the camera.
 
1. Have very good lighting
2. Make sure the camera is selecting ISO 100 (must be ISO 100!)
3. Lock AE using the * button
4. Use the back dial to adjust exposure compensation to -1 (or -2 for 1/60th which is a 180 degree shutter at 30fps)

why does the ISO have to be 100?
i know i'm off somewhere in my logic here, but where?:

- i have movie display mode setting
- i understand that half-pressing shutter release only shows data for pics but also understand that it somewhat relates to video
- i use 5d in M manual mode
- with manual nikon lens, i'm able to accomplish these half-shutter pressed numbers to show and lock the shutter being 1/50 and the iso even up to 3200 by pointing at different areas of the room and rotating the aperture ring.

so in the above scenario, with such high iso, although i'm locked with the shutter display being 1/50, it is not so?
 
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