Finally Bloom's review!

[TheDingo]

Yes these people will never garner festival honors. Honestly I have never even heard of a DSLR short being accepted into a top festival like sundance/tribeca/cannes, has anyone else? most top shorts are still shot on film or high end digital like Red, which generally means they are also shot with a competent crew and thousands of dollars of professional lighting and the professionals required to utilize that lighting to its highest advantage (DP, electricians, gaffers, grips...etc)

...And then there is the documentary "Iraq in Fragments" which was shot with two DVX-100 SD cameras that won "Best Director, Best Cinematography & Best Editing" at the 2006 Sundance Festival.

Iraq in Fragments

People have to stop being so equipment focused and realize that Talent is NOT optional if you want to do something significant.

 

[Homunculus]

...And then there is the documentary "Iraq in Fragments" which was shot with two DVX-100 SD cameras that won "Best Director, Best Cinematography & Best Editing" at the 2006 Sundance Festival.

Iraq in Fragments

People have to stop being so equipment focused and realize that Talent is NOT optional if you want to do something significant.

yes and 2006 is well before the dslr revolution just like i already mentioned. as I also mentioned that window breaker was shot in DVX100 and got huge sundance recognition around that same time.
DVX is a proper video camera, DSLR's are not and have to have huge work arounds to the many problems they present. This is one of the reasons as Barry already pointed out that top talent who get recognized at festivals rarely ever use DSLR's

 

[TheDingo]

This is one of the reasons as Barry already pointed out that top talent who get recognized at festivals rarely ever use DSLR's

You are missing the point. The equipment really doesn't matter as long as you master what ever you choose to use.

Annie Leibovitz could shoot the cover shot of any top magazine with a $3 plastic Diana camera and the shot would be great. Not because of the camera, but because of the talent using the camera.

I see no reason why an award winning film couldn't be shot with a DSLR camera, but given the choice I think most of us would rather work with a camera made for professional video work right from the start.

 

[Barry_Green]

I see no reason why an award winning film couldn't be shot with a DSLR camera, but given the choice I think most of us would rather work with a camera made for professional video work right from the start.

You're agreeing with him though. That's what he's saying. It's not that you can't do great work with a DSLR, it's that most of us would rather work with a tool that's designed for the purpose, rather than jump through hoops.

Like I pointed out, we did a couple of films that have done very well on the festival circuit, on a DSLR. But I wouldn't do it again if I had any other choice.

 

[ZazaCast]

Annie Leibovitz could shoot the cover shot of any top magazine with a $3 plastic Diana camera and the shot would be great.

Short RANT:
If I hear this again, I swear....

It's just NOT true. Granted Annie is talented, but so are thousands of photographers out there....and like ALL others, she depends on extensive retouching of all her picts.
Being in the right place at the right time helps a career too. ;-)

If she could do as well with a $3.00 camera, why wouldn't she? Then she'd make thousands more per photo!

Ten to one if you had access to her studio, talent, staff and workflow, chances are YOU could shoot the cover of any top magazine too.

RANT end....

Thanks! I needed that. :cheesy:

Now move along.... there's nothing to see here people.....

 

[TheDingo]

It's just NOT true. Granted Annie is talented, but so are thousands of photographers out there...

I'm not saying that Annie is the only one ( I chose her because she's a well recognized name ), just that if you have someone with talent of her caliber ( and yes there are hundreds, maybe thousands ) the equipment almost does not matter.

Good gear makes life easier, but it's nothing without the raw talent to use it well.

 

[Rick Burnett]

Barry, thanks for the information about the ISO settings. As long as you mentioned it to them that it is desired to be able to dial in ISO values, hopefully it makes it as a firmware upgrade or something in the future. I understand what you are saying about how it works, just wanted to clarify, was just hoping I could use ALL the ISO settings easily instead of having to pick 3 of them and only switch between those three while shooting. Like I said, I use more than 3 with my 7D at the moment, and love that freedom as I tune the ISO all the time during shooting. I tend to leave the shutter speed constant (as close to 180 deg equivalent as possible) and just adjust ISO and F-stop. Hopefully it will come.

The other question I was trying to ask which I believe you answered was how easy it was to adjust the F-stop and the shutter speed. I figured they must be easy to change on the fly, I had just wanted to verify. Honestly, FPS I'd rather have not as accessible (like, 2 or more steps away) to replace for ISO control, but then again, maybe the way the AF100 is setup is for those coming from other Panasonic professional cameras and what people expect control and where.

 

[Julienmassie]

I dont know, i dont think the iso setting for the low-medium-high will be so deep that it will be a mess to change it on the fly. Yes it will be longer and not as fast as the 5d but ... I worried more about if i will have to spend 3k on a good external recorder right now ...

 

[Mark Smith]

HAve you ever been to a Leibowitz shoot? The camera is the smallest part of the process, almost an after thought.

 

[heavyG]

Barry, thanks for the information about the ISO settings. As long as you mentioned it to them that it is desired to be able to dial in ISO values, hopefully it makes it as a firmware upgrade or something in the future. I understand what you are saying about how it works, just wanted to clarify, was just hoping I could use ALL the ISO settings easily instead of having to pick 3 of them and only switch between those three while shooting. Like I said, I use more than 3 with my 7D at the moment, and love that freedom as I tune the ISO all the time during shooting. I tend to leave the shutter speed constant (as close to 180 deg equivalent as possible) and just adjust ISO and F-stop. Hopefully it will come.

The other question I was trying to ask which I believe you answered was how easy it was to adjust the F-stop and the shutter speed. I figured they must be easy to change on the fly, I had just wanted to verify. Honestly, FPS I'd rather have not as accessible (like, 2 or more steps away) to replace for ISO control, but then again, maybe the way the AF100 is setup is for those coming from other Panasonic professional cameras and what people expect control and where.

The ISO 'Mindlink®' will be present in the first revision of this camera - it "will be able to automatically adjust ISO settings, white balance, focus, & zoom; based on the mind will of the operator."

 

[pietro jona]

Restrepo has been shot with Canon DSLRs and won Sundance (ans the stills won the World Press Photo). Not a short but a feature documentary movie.

http://restrepothemovie.com/

 

[Homunculus]

HAve you ever been to a Leibowitz shoot? .

have you? i haven't

 

[Homunculus]

Restrepo has been shot with Canon DSLRs and won Sundance (ans the stills won the World Press Photo). Not a short but a feature documentary movie.

http://restrepothemovie.com/

sorry a cursory search seems to find that Restrepo was shot with HDV tape and/or canon xha camcorder. perhaps a few shots were done with DSLR's but I doubt a large part of it. try again

 

[pietro jona]

Won't try again since you are right. My mistake I was thinking about Battle For Hearts And Minds, http://battleforheartsandminds.com/about

pietro

 

[Homunculus]

thanks

 

[f64manray]

“Tiny Furniture” won the juried narrative film prize (essentially the best feature film) at the South by South West Music and Media Conference. It was shot on 7D. I thought someone would have mentioned that by now.

 

[Homunculus]

“Tiny Furniture” won the juried narrative film prize (essentially the best feature film) at the South by South West Music and Media Conference. It was shot on 7D. I thought someone would have mentioned that by now.

the film looks great (visually) and was obviously done by top notch crew. if it was shot on 7d that's very cool but it's still a very rare exception though SXSW is also the fest where Depth of Phil (GH1) premiered (maybe this fest likes DSLR's more than others? lol)

 

[agcohn]

the film looks great (visually) and was obviously done by top notch crew. if it was shot on 7d that's very cool but it's still a very rare exception though SXSW is also the fest where Depth of Phil (GH1) premiered (maybe this fest likes DSLR's more than others? lol)

Festivals do not care about what camera you use, only whether the film is good or has big actors who will bring more press to the festival.

If you shoot a great film on a DSLR, it will get into big festivals. If the film doesn't get into the big festivals, it isn't because you shot on a DSLR, it's because the film wasn't good enough.

 

[Homunculus]

Festivals do not care about what camera you use, only whether the film is good or has big actors who will bring more press to the festival.

If you shoot a great film on a DSLR, it will get into big festivals. If the film doesn't get into the big festivals, it isn't because you shot on a DSLR, it's because the film wasn't good enough.

i know i already said as much several times in my previous posts. i was just joking when i said if sxsw likes DSLR's. the festival programmers don't even KNOW what camera a film is shot on let alone care.

 

[Fotojorno]

Originally Posted by Mark Smith
HAve you ever been to a Leibowitz shoot? ."

have you? i haven't

My best friend worked for her full time for 3 years before the digital age. The single most important item on her sets is lighting equipment. She used Mamiya RZ's, Hasselblad's, Leica's, etc., what ever worked for the setting. Film was the constant and lighting made the shot. So many of her images look naturally lit but that's what made her great.