Final Cut EXTREME & native 1080p editing

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mynamesbuck

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http://www.thinksecret.com/news/finalcut6.html

Check it out. Looks like it will blow Avid out of the water. Hooraayyyyyy.

"Specific features of the new video editing software are less known at this point, although native editing of 5.1 surround sound in both Final Cut Pro 6 and the new version of Soundtrack Pro is said to be nearing completion. Final Cut Pro 6 will also support 1080/24p and 1080/30p DVCPROHD, sources said. While Apple has officially thrown its support behind Blu-ray, the new version of DVD Studio Pro should support burning to both Blu-ray discs and HD-DVD."

It's apples inside website.
 
rgdfilms said:
From my understanding, I thought FCP 5 could already handle 1080 24P DVCPROHD
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Yeah, it does. So, ya gotta remind yourself that this is all rumor reporting. What does ThinkSecret know about FCP under the hood? Jack Sh**.
 
This has already been discussed on numerous other production usergroup sites. People who have inside knowledge, without revealing anything to break their NDA's, have said that this report is factually incorrect.
 
That site is pretty accurate. They have predicted a number of things correctly including the week the intel macs would be released and that was months before they where released.
 
mynamesbuck said:
That site is pretty accurate. They have predicted a number of things correctly including the week the intel macs would be released and that was months before they where released.
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Whatever. My dog could have predicted that one. Apple always tries to coordinate new product launches (especially the big "revolutionary" ones) with MacWorld and Jobs' address to his minions. Combine that with Intel's CPU roadmap and press releases about their Apple relationship and timing of when Apple gets their exclusive access window to the new chips...

What I am surprised about is that there's no new Mac Mini offering right now. I'm also a little confuzzled that they don't have a 17" MacBookPro with a 1920x1200 screen, dual HDD bays, Firewire 800 and a stacked PCMCIA/ExpressCard54 (yes 54, not 34 like the 15" MacBook). If they would have had one of those, I would have pre-ordered that instead of hunting down a killer deal on a new Quad.
 
AppliedVisual said:
What I am surprised about is that there's no new Mac Mini offering right now. I'm also a little confuzzled that they don't have a 17" MacBookPro with a 1920x1200 screen.
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The most likely answer is that intoducing a Mac Mini using the new intel chips would undercut their more powerful computers. Remember, the Mini is supposed to be their bargain bin computer, not a work horse. Essentially, it is the new eMac. I found it odd so many people were predicting an overhaul of the iBook line, but not one of the PowerBook. That would have been illogical on Apple's part. Overhauling a "lesser" product so that it is far superior to the "pro" product would be... damaging.

I'm sure we'll never know all the reasons why everything was done the way it was. There is probably no one true answer (likely a lot of different reasons), but suffice it to say, there will be more to come in the future.

As for ThinkSecret, it appears that they got a lot wrong this time around, but they are remarkably reliable overall.
 
Hey, what about support for 720/25p and 1080/25p. I haven't heard of any announcements regarding those formats.
Is Apple forgetting about us PAL users?

Why do we always have to be handicapped?
 
araujofh said:
Hey, what about support for 720/25p and 1080/25p. I haven't heard of any announcements regarding those formats.
Is Apple forgetting about us PAL users?

Why do we always have to be handicapped?
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According to JVC literature the next maintenance release of FCP will support HDV at 25p. Perhaps DVCProHD 25p at the same time?
 
That site is pretty accurate. They have predicted a number of things correctly including the week the intel macs would be released and that was months before they where released.
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Actually, after Macworld Thinksecret posted an article saying that they pretty much got everything wrong, in a politically correct, non-damaging sort of way. People that sit around and wait for sites like these to "predict" the future are probably the same people that listened to analysts a few years ago about how Apple was going to go bankrupt.

Just a thought!:thumbsup:
 
oneinfiniteloop said:
People that sit around and wait for sites like these to "predict" the future are probably the same people that listened to analysts a few years ago about how Apple was going to go bankrupt.
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While most industry "experts" and "analysts" are mostly wrong, most of the time, I often wonder why people actually listen. Although, the predictions of Apple going bankrupt were pretty well founded. And it would have happened if they had not pulled the iPod (and the enigmatically successful marketing campaign for it) out of a stinking orifice. the iMac also helped them quite a bit, but alone wouldn't have been enough to save them... The popularity of the iPod has got millions of people worldwide looking at Apple computers again for so many different purposes. Apple has also been very, very smart over the past few years in acquiring software licenses and even whole companies to boost their unique product line. They nabbed Spruce DVD, which was by far the best DVD software the PC world had to offer at the time and they turned it into DVD Studio. They snagged Shake when nobody was looking and Avid and Microsoft were both drooling over it, but trying to settle the SoftImage mess.

I only hope that Apple keeps on rolling for a while and the move to Intel doesn't hurt them in the long run. IMO, they should have went with AMD CPUs -- much more powerful and cost effective in terms of current products, but it all comes down to cost and availability and I think Intel made them an offer not to be refused.
 
AppliedVisual said:
If they would have had one of those, I would have pre-ordered that instead of hunting down a killer deal on a new Quad.
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Did you find that killer deal? I'm looking myself.
 
tuface said:
Did you find that killer deal? I'm looking myself.
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Actually, I did (I think). I found a new-in-box quad, 4GB, 500GB HD, 7800GT and AppleCare on eBay and threw a bid out there. I didn't think I'd get it since I bid nearly a day before the end of the auction. Anyway, nobody showed up to bid on the thing again, actually one guy did, but only upped my current bid price by $50. Heh. So I saved over $1800 + tax vs. buying from Apple's online store or most other dealers.

The only catch is now I hope that the seller (who appears to be reputable with good feedback and a long-time ebay member) delivers as promised. He already mailed me once and sent me a PayPal invoice, which I've paid, now I just wait for the shipping confirmation and the package itself.

It's a gutsy purchase for sure, but will be worth it in the end if it all plays out.

I'm going to pair the system with a new Dell 30" LCD which I just received the other day and once it's here and running I'll go buy Final Cut Studio for it. If it works as I'm hoping, I'll then add Shake and maybe a card like the Kona2 or Kona3.
 
AppliedVisual said:
IMO, they should have went with AMD CPUs -- much more powerful and cost effective in terms of current products...
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Yes, because you and everyone else has had so much experience with Intel's Core Duo processors. :huh: I'm a huge AMD fan, but come on, the idea was to keep energy consumption and heat down to a minimum, not return to the G4 lapburner days!
 
jeffyjones said:
Yes, because you and everyone else has had so much experience with Intel's Core Duo processors. :huh: I'm a huge AMD fan, but come on, the idea was to keep energy consumption and heat down to a minimum, not return to the G4 lapburner days!
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True, the performance of the new Intel CPUs is still somewhat unknown. But we also know that the PowerMac line will have to wait for the more powerful chips not geared toward the mobile and compact systems market.

But that's not what I was getting at with the AMD comment. Not counting the new Intel Core Duo CPUs in these Mac systems, since the performance is still somewhat of a mystery, Intel's dual-core offerings have been pathetic. They have suffered from a brain-damaged, me-too design as Intel pushed them to market to compete. AMD has had the advantage in the PC CPU market in terms of raw power and performance for some time now. You say you're an AMD fan, so you probably recognize this. In terms of heat and power issues, the AMD64 CPUs, run a lot cooler than the Intel offerings. AMD also has their Turion mobile CPU and dual core updates to this chip are imminent. The Turion outperforms the Pentium M in many ways, especially with FPU operations and heat and power consumption are very comparable.

Anyway, all we can hope is that Apple made the right decision and time will tell... They obviously made the decision that fit their agenda best. Hopefully, the best interest of the Mac as a powerful computing platform was the prime consideration and not solely volume production and/or the bottom line.
 
As long as Steve Jobs is behind the wheel I kinda have faith. He is defenitly smart enough to get the strategy and long-term view right.
 
Yes, all of my computers have AMD processors, so I'm a fan, and I agree they've held a strong lead overall. My laptop has a Pentium M though, because nothing from AMD runs as cool and with low power. That's what I was getting at. AMD just hasn't put out a part that's gee-whiz enough for the mobile market to really embrace. I'm sure they have something in the pipe, but Apple made I think the right choice for what's available, and I don't think they would've gone this route unless it really kicked more ass than Gary Coleman on a crack binge. Intel has too much cash lying around to lose market share forever.
 
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