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Martay said:
Very good information. Thanks for the heads up on this.

-M
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No prob! My mom owns a couple of music schools here in the Chicago area and I got her started on Facebook ads as well.

Another thing I've thought about is soliciting someone (probably a pretty girl, amateur model or something) who has a 3-4K friend following and pay her a nominal fee to get the word out. You'd be surpised what people are willing to do for 50 bucks, especially if they feel it will continue; another place to try something like that is on DeviantArt and other art-related sites. It's just about asking someone to use their name (and popularity) to get the word out on your project. A lot of filmmakers, I think, use their actors and crew in this manner, which I think is fine. But if you can get someone who is a web-based "celebrity" (not on the level of Felicia Day, but someone who has a good following and who doesn't hate what you're producing), 50 bucks could probably get you quite a bit of aggressive exposure.

Thus far I've only done this kind of thing as favors, like "Hey, can you give my video a shout out on your journal/blog/status update?" Hence the difference between the 1100+ views of the first vid on YouTube and the 270 fans on facebook. A lot of my views came from outside facebook, probably from these "favor" sources.

I think a lot of people make money this way on YouTube especially (it would make sense that someone with 1,000,000 subscribers could charge a fee to, essentially, advertise for you in their vlog). I think using actual people this way (opposed to just Facebook/Youtube ads, etc) gives the production a more "grass roots" feel.

Personally I haven't even come out of my learning phase yet, so I'll be exploring all of this later on, but for anyone who is actively trying to get their productions some views or their company branded, I think the person to (popular) person approach could be a sound one.
 
Makes a lot of sense. Your advice is very appreciated. I have friends with that kind of following. I'm going to grease 'em:)
 
I will ask some of my friends online for a little help in promoting my movies; e.g.: -
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filmman said:
That's right; markets are becoming extremely expensive. The AFM, CANNES and BERLINALE are all over $10,000 just to participate -- not counting travel, lodging, food, advertising, screenings, taxis, entertainment and tips:)

Facebook, Myspace, Twitter -- these are all very valuable for the indie filmmaker.

For releasing your movies on a non-exclusive basis (without losing your rights and control of a movie), http://www.CreateSpace.com is the best deal in town. I use them for all my works.
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I would agree that these can be very helpful, especially if you can connect with certain people. I also use YouTube. It might be argued that YouTube is not as refined as, for example, Vimeo, but it might help in reaching more people. Even something like Craigslist might help in certain situations, like in drawing people to an event.

$0.02

By the way filmman, will you be attending the premiere of The Red Queen?

Also, I was wondering, do you ever go on screen in your films, or do you usually stay behind the camera?
 
Thanks for the tip regarding Craigslist. I put up a notice about my availability as a filmmaker once and heard nothing, so I forgot about them; but perhaps I should give Craigslist another try with respect to selling DVDs maybe.

I'm planning to go for the festival; but I'm not absolutely sure. As for playing a role in front of the camera, I don't know. I might try it in a certain type of situation; e.g., documentary footage of myself directing a scene from the movie maybe:)
 
Well, I mention Craigslist as I learned that, reportedly, for the production of the film Brüno, patrons were lured to an event billed as "cage fighting" in part by Craigslist advertisements. So I thought of it as a way that people can become aware of something. I put an ad on there for the premiere of my film. Whether or not it will help bring more people to the premiere, I do not know. But I guess I thought it was worth trying.

So, you would have to make a pretty big trip to get to the festival, wouldn't you? I've been trying to get my film into one other theatre (after the premiere), but that one might be too far for me to visit.
 
yeah, the world premiere is this coming Saturday, Nov. 20th.
i talked to the organizer yesterday. i'm sending posters today.
if i make some quick sales in the next few days and make some decent money, i'll fly out there; but it's not looking very likely now.

hope your screening goes well. keep scheduling more screenings until you have made some decent money for your next project.
 
Thanks for the good wishes toward my screening. I'll maybe post a couple of my thoughts about the process of getting to this point the night before or earlier in the day of the premiere. Then maybe I'll add something about how it went. Do you have plans for any other screenings of your film after the film festival?
 
No, I'm not planning to submit to any other festivals. I only accept invitations and after asking a few and being ignored, I'm not going to waste my time asking festivals to invite my movie.

I'm planning to go to the foreign market where I know how to sell to buyers from all over the world.

I tried to get filmmakers to give me $2000 each to rep their movies, but I only found one filmmaker and so I didn't go to the last AFM in Santa Monica.

I'm trying again for the Berlin Film Market in Germany. I'm thinking of asking for a $1000 only this time. Most filmmakers don't like to pay any money to a distributor to represent them, and it's a good policy not to; except with me it's different.LOL (That's what they all say:)

Seriously I only trust myself in doing a fair job of distributing movies for indie filmmakers. So it will take a few markets before I can prove it. Until then I will take my own films.
 
And here is a teaser for THE RED QUEEN. The movie has such different sequences that when I was first cutting everything together, I thought this movie isn't going to hang together; but miraculously it did -- after I had put it all together. I never had to touch it. However, now I find cutting a trailer for this movie is the most difficult thing because how do I give that impression that the sum of all its parts is by far greater than all its separate sequences?
http://www.releasing.net/red_queen_trailer_09.html
 
This looks like a promo for dancing with the stars. Tell me about this freakin' movie man!!!!! The last few clips tell more than the majority of the teaser. The original trailer was better than this, even as a teaser. This isn't even entertaining. It's no good.

-Nate
 
Oh, that was just to find out where you've been. LOL
Ok, now that you're back, I'm going to go back to work on the teaser and the trailer.
Stay tuned. ... I'm glad you liked the last two shots. Okay!
 
I would disagree in saying that this teaser is not entertaining; at least I believe fans of concert type films, for example, would probably be entertained. Yes, it may not give one a clear understanding of what the film is about. But that can be fine in my opinion. One person even said, "[A trailer] should NOT tell the plot of the film" (http://www.fanpop.com/spots/upcoming-movies/articles/271). Now I'm not saying that should be a rule, but I don't think it should necessarily be a rule that a trailer must exactly tell you what a movie is about.
 
I agree, Gilbert, but Nate has a point in that a trailer (especially a teaser) must be real compelling, for someone to plunk down $25 to buy the DVD or go out and watch the movie. In my case, I want distributors to buy the film for megabucks.LOL

The RED QUEEN is a difficult movie to cut a trailer for, because it is made up of such different types of sequences, and I'd like to show my audience a shot or two from each one of these sequences (when I'm cutting a promo especially). However, that becomes long and boring.

So, the answer is -- for a trailer, trailer-teaser -- to cut something really unusual: different music, different shots (maybe some shots that are not even in the movie itself) -- just to draw the audience in and ... well, sell them a DVD. It's cheating, I know, but maybe if the movie is really so much better than what the trailer-teaser implies, that's okay then....

Thank you for pointing out the part about the music, I agree, it's a musical after all. And, yes, the trailer shouldn't always tell a story.

Another weakness in some trailers I've been seeing online is that they contain so many characters and so many bits and pieces of action, not only nobody can tell what the movie is about, nobody can tell who is who.
 
Today is the world premiere of THE RED QUEEN in Smithfield, North Carolina! at the Ava Gardner Indie Film Festival. Here is the link to the latest trailer:
http://www.releasing.net/red_quen_trailer_09.html
Here's a piece of art work for the movie:
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The official website for the movie is: http://www.felliniesque.com
And you can see the trailer at Youtube as well:
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