February 1st, 2006

Flintstone, that noise is the hiss from the Z1 tape drive recorder next to the HVX and the HD100 in a sure ( i wish and hope) coming article from Barry and Jarred. I´m wishing too for you guys to get access to all of them mañana to hear the pros and cons in a fierce charts battle!
 
The FX1/Z1 just became irrelevant for filmmaking purposes on March 31, 2005.

I believe the FX1 in my hand is a million times better at making films on March 31, 2005, than a camera I can't buy because it's not currently available. Salivating is one thing - but keep in mind that you can't buy an HVX now, and that it will likely be twice the price of an FX1 in 3 or 4 months when it comes out. Probably worth every penny more - but not everyone has those extra pennies. Furthermore, it would be possible to buy 2 FX1s and shoot twice the coverage or get 1080i HDV in 3D for the price of an HVX.

That said, I'm thrilled that the HVX is supporting in some way shape or form (either physically or through software) the 1080P format. I was very concerned that the HVX would arrive with only 720P support as "good enough" and the adoption of the camera by the enthusiasts of the board would result in the 1080P format not being pushed.

Hooray! More choices for everyone!
 
Spiff said:
Hooray! More choices for everyone!
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Double word. I mean, the HVX sounds AWESOME. But I think 1080 24p cinches that it's gonna be double the cost of the FX1 (meaning around $7k) if not double the cost of the Z1, so it does seem like we're still talking about slightly different tiers of camera. Still sounds like a great deal, though! I mean, how could you want a varicam for film out when you can store 1080 24p for $7k-$10K? I know the glass is different, etc., but STILL.
 
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rockity sockity bling blang the doo dong.. bakachu bakachu bakachu bang!

thats my song y'all

loser ... out!
 
Boy, I have never seen so many cult followers in my life!

Ok, first.....A bird in the HAND beats TEN IN THE BUSH! Therefore Barry, On March 31st 2005, I was out shooting a short film with my Z1U (bird in my hand) .... So how many things did you shoot with the HVX200 on March 31st, 2005??? (your birds in the bush)

uhhh, that's CHECKMATE!

And when it finally DOES come out god knows when.....how much are those P2 cards again??? I just bought a 5-pack of MiniDV tapes for $5 bucks each.....

uhhh, that's DOMINO!

At that P2 price....at that >$10k Camera price....... how many (coming soon) HVX200's do you think are gonna out-sell, out-use, become more popular then ----> the (now available) FX1/Z1U again?

uhhh, that's UNO!

I believe everything I believed before is still beliveavble....read each one carefully!

uhhh, that's BLACKJACK!

*smile*<--- Isaac, back atcha!

- ShannonRawls.com

P.S.
I still mighht buy one though! hahahaha
 
Another dumb thread, This boards starting to get filled with every stray visitor that can insert a tape and press a red button .... Nothing like some one overcompensating by bragging about how much he own's, and in the end sounded like someone no one would want to be around let alone work with.....

If people want the new HDX they'll get it, if it's about coming up with $$ they'll save there $$,

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"P.S. I still might buy one though! hahahaha"

your my hero.... :thumbdown
 
Hey Shannon, why don't you make up your mind? You keep telling everyone that "when the HVX comes out, I'll get that one too". We all know your loaded and rolling in dough. By the way, I was out shooting a film on March 31st too. So whats your point?
 
Scharky.... make up my mind about what?

See....that's the thing. Some people need to learn to relax and realize...THIS IS THE INTERNET, NOT LIFE!! Why take this stuff so super serious??? As if a freakin' video camera is a BADGE OF HONOR or something. Like you walk around with it all day or sleep with it or show it off at family events to your uncles and nephews while sticking your chest out! LOLOL Do that with a new $100k PORSCHE....not a handycam!
Since when does buying a Panasonic or Sony camera automatically enlist you in the SONY ARMY or PANASONIC MARINES! As if you're taking "SIDES" or some crap. I get what works best for what I do. Don't you?? That's how I make up my mind. Or did you buy a panasonic...and pledged to their sales dept. that you will fight for them till the end days?? *smile*

Stray visitors? You mean like yourself?? You only been a member for 3 weeks. LOLOLOL And, While you call what I'm doing bragging, i call it reporting to others who may want it. I have learned so much from awesome sites like DVXUSER (even found one of the best DP's in the world here, Brett Erskine), and to continue the tradition....I talk about equipment I know of... if you call it bragging, then, um.....ok??

And rolling in dough?? Who ever said that?? I guess that's what YOU came up with simply because I take these little vieo cameras in stride, while you guys salivate over the announcement of a new one. FYI, I was talking to my man Barry Green. Me and barry frequently talk and take jabs at eachoter on these forums.....all in fun. He said something about March 31st, I said something back...he gets it, I get it...but then here you come...... LOL

Anyhow, I digress. Are you going to NAB? *smile*

- Shannon W. Rawls
 
I don't have any problem with you or how you shoot, what camera you use or anything that you do, I just find it funny lololololololololololol that you bug people for allegedly changing there views and then state things that don't match up to what you previously stated yourself, if you really want me to quote your post's let me know but I don't see a point. I agree you look like your a busy guy and although having only a few posts probably aren't a "stray visitor" and frequently read and not reply in other threads, aswell you probably visit many forums....

I myself am slightly the same way and although having come here for about 2 years, only joined a year ago, and since the site overhaul I set up a new account, so I could see how you may think I've only been on the board for 3weeks......

:beer:
 
Nick has been here forever. Jeez.

The fact is; without 24p whats the point? Yeah, I said it. HIDEF or SD is alright by me but without 24p you get 60i and with 601 you get "V-V-V-V-I D E O" and that sucks.

Hey, it;s just an opinion; if you don't need or believe in 24p then its all good; it's your decision. BUt don't rag on people or acuse them of being Militant Cult Leaders. Who cares? Shoot something already; cause without content you aint got that thing.
 
John_Hudson said:
The fact is; without 24p whats the point?
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We all agree on that. But some of us find our 24p SD output to be better coming from the Sony HDV cams than the DVX; we just arrive at our 24p in post. As for native HD 24p, well, it doesn't appear we'll be getting that for any less than 2x to 3x the cost of an FX1 (which is currently about $3200), so that's just a question of which income bracket folks are in. I'm hoping my work with the FX1 gets me the HVX $$ by Sept.-Oct., but if not, well, I have a feeling most clients/viewers won't notice much difference until HD-DVDs become a reality. :)
 
Hyperbolic said:
We all agree on that. But some of us find our 24p SD output to be better coming from the Sony HDV cams than the DVX;
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24p is a gift from the DV Gods.

Which Sony camera are you talking about?
 
Hey Shannon,
Compared to me, your rolling in it, as I'm sure most people are on this site, as I am just finishing up my BFA and am about 20G's in debt. So yes, I have to pick and choose my cameras very seriously. It took me 9 months to save up for my DVX, because my wife wouldn't let me use our financial aid money for it:cheesy: .
The point that I was trying to make was that in your post above you are trying to point out that the HDX will never match the FX1 or Z1. I personally could care less which cameras people use, as I have stated before, I think the Z1 and Fx1 are great cameras, and I believe in using the right camera for the right job. But if I'm going to be buying a camera, I want it to do things the way I want to do them. I am sick of people telling me, and I'm sure you feel the same way, about how I should buy and FX1 or Z1 or stick with this camera, or wait for that camera. I say, if you are telling people to wait for this or that, or to get this or that camera, and your not doing anything yourself, or have anything to show, you have no right to give advice.
I have stated before and I say it again, it really doesn't matter what camera you shoot with, as long as the camera works for you. I have seen amazing things from the GL2, the Xl1, the DVX, the FX1 and the Z1. Those that say, I don't think it looks good because it was shot on so and so camera are really looking through biased goggles that are distorting their vision. We all wear them, it is unavoidable after making a $3000 purchase. But to that I say, I am still going to be saving my pennies, and probably taking a big chunk out of my credit card for the Hvx, if it stands up to it's specs. WHy, because it funcitons the way I want it to. I don't want to shoot events. I want 24p true progressive scan, I want 60P video. I want 1080p. Will it make me a better film maker? Hell no. but it will allow me to grow with the camera, and allow me the ability to work the way that I want to.
Shannon, I respect what you do, and would really love to see some of your work. Who knows, as soon as I'm out of school, we may meet in the film industry some day.
 
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