C100: External Mic

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Carroll B

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I know there is a section dedicated to mics however I want to know what you are using externally with the c100. I am planning to film a couple outdoor concerts and looking for some advice. Also, how do you line space on this forum. Thanks
 
Darren, Thanks for responding. Unfortunately I have no idea. I am guessing an xlr with a windshield to prevent the wind noise as I will be outside. I will probably be about 30 feet away from the subject. What type would you recommend?
 
Im using sennheiser 8060 paired with a Rode WS6 windscreen

sounds good but it doesnt worth the money, Id just have a Rode videomic pro on top of C100 for a small quality trade off. But in turn I trimmed at least 1/2 of the size.


Guess the 8060 + WS6 is the best camera mic options here for C100.

anything more than that is hiring a decicated sound guy to boom it, serisously , camera top mounting option is the least you should consider. Id go with a wireless Lav for acceptable quality. and a Sound guy for optimized quality.


If you shooting concert, then get a tascam dr100 mk ii, hook it up to DJ's mixer, then you get everything, studio quality LOL.

If you need the crowd response, or just like a general background sound, then Videomic pro should do Just fine.

Interview ? then you need a handmic or LAV, Sennheiser G3 should be your friend

Booming ? umm, dont touch this area, hire a guy since its a completely different field
 
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30 feet and looking for a shotgun solution? well... good luck.
No honestly, if you want something super tiny I'd go with the iShotgun Mic. (google it). If you want something really small for some run n'gun this looks pretty decent.
 
what your request boils down to, is nearly any shotgun microphone, if you want somewhat better performance, get a regular size shotgun like an ntg or 897, etc.. or if you want a smaller mic, im trying out the brn-200 which is about the smallest decent quality mic that's around. but really, just searching on amazon for shotgun and/or on camera microphones and related searches, will yield you plenty of options. if it's just fun for you, simpler and lower cost is probably the better bet.
 
I suggest using the internal mics. With respect, if you don't know what you're after, you may well be very pleasantly surprised by what you can achieve with them plus a wind gag. I had one made to similar spec as a Rycote for £10 or you can otherwise use a makeshift thick sock etc.

More often than not, I'm leaving my 416 in the bag and using the internal mics for actuality sound. They're actually very respectable, in my opinion.

Ben.
 
I have a Rode Stereo Videomic Pro that is left over from my DSLR days that sounds great for live music. It does pick up camera noise / handler noise if mounted to the camera and you are hand holding though.
 
Ben, Thanks for responding, the main reason I did not use the internal mic was because I was concerned about the wind noise and I did not have wind screen for it. I did not think about making one. I am going to try using the one I have for my zoom to see if I can make it work.
 
iggy, I ended up using my Rode Videomic Pro, however the sound quality that I recorded was horrible for some reason. I have used it on my mark III and was very happy, do not know what went wrong. Because I have little experience with video I decided to also use my Vixia HF G10 also (primarily because of auto focus). It does a pretty good job for the price you pay. I attached a Azden shotgun mic to this and the sound was great. I rented the canon 18-135 stm lens to give it a try (for auto focus purposes) and it appears to go in and out of focus. The good thing is that I have some pretty good mid and closeup shots that are tac sharp that I can use along with the G10 . I have a lot to learn, including how to line space on this forum, can someone tell me how. Thanks, Carroll
 
Carroll B said:
I will probably be about 30 feet away from the subject. What type would you recommend?
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30 feet is too far for acceptable sound even with a shot gun microphone. It is inversely proportional to the distance and hence at 30 feet you will get very low, despite increasing the gain. A cheaper microphone placed closer to the source of sound is far better than an expensive microphone 30 feet away.

I use a Sennheiser MKH 416 with my C300. I mount it on my camera or place close to the talent if he/she is stationary and use a boom operator with my full rycote zeppelin. If possible, I use a Sennheiser G3 wireless. Without a trained boom operator, it becomes difficult. In one of my shoots, an intern couldn't hold it properly and several times the boom came into the frame.

For wildlife, I use a Telinga Parabolic microphone to get distance sounds.

Microphones retain their value for a long time and depreciate very slowly. Also, better sound elevates the film. So it is advisable to spend more money on microphones.

For concerts, you may consider placing a recorder with microphone closer to the performing area. Even recording to a cheaper recorder like a tascam should be of help.

If you want stereo output, then consider trying several microphone techniques like placing two omni/omni lavaliers on jecklin disk/dummy head.
 
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