Extensive XL2 Demo Footage

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Yes when you see that image on a broadcast monitor all the seats are lit up and it looks really good.
 
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I honestly think it all looks like video. I mean compared to what I have seen the dvx do, not even the 100a just the regular, it is leaps and bounds above that.
 
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Thanks for the link, that is indeed a pretty extensive clip. Aerial, sports, production, low light, etc.

Has anyone heard of a demo disk anywhere? I swear I've seen that police footage in another Canon site ad. If there is such a thing I'd like to have a copy and avoid the massive compression artifacts.
 
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How the heck can you tell it is good?!

That file is so compressed and can't tell at all!
-Jerry
 
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Purely from a visual standpoint it looked like crap (and I mean exactly what gcaus states. It is so compressed its horrible). Which makes me wonder how one could look at this footage and make any qualified opinions on it. I have no doubt the XL2 is going to be a solid camera (whether or not it is 'better' that the DVX remains to be seen and is subjective anyway). But yeah, this particular footage is in bad shape.
 
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I could care less what the footage looks like coming str8 out of the camera in terms of "look" - as long as its good 24p and has good res the rest should be taken care of in post, this way you are left with more options.
 
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I could care less what the footage looks like coming str8 out of the camera in terms of "look" - as long as its good 24p and has good res the rest should be taken care of in post, this way you are left with more options.
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LOL. That is a funny statement. I look at footage on the site all the time and hear the rants and ravings about how great it looks....and it has not been treated an ounce. I mean for crying out loud watch the outtakes from Bourne Identity, those clips look like ****...thats how all footage looks coming out of a camera (any camera). I have a DVX, I have an XL2 i like my DVX...I like the XL2 more, but when i'm done with the image you can't tell which is which. Discussions like this are further proof of hatefication of all things new on this board. Make some hot **** and quit all the assinine comparisions.
 
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cinebuddy, can yu put up some quality footage for us? I for one would really like to see the 24p on the xl2 after post. I want to see the best that it can be. I hope you would do that for us peeps on the forum.

John - you crack me up (again :))
 
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So true about untreated footage. I have seen the PRE Bourne Identity footage and it looks like arse on a stick. I am a huge fan of color correction and manipulation of the original footage.
 
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I don't have a dvx100 or XL2 but am looking to purchase one next month!! I found the XL2 footage very pale and have yet to make any decision to which i want, 3months ago it was the dvx100a all the way!.

I will await more footage :)
 
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Decisons are tough.

When I purchased it was hands down the DVX100. Now, there is the DVXa, the XL2 and the since announced Sony.
 
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"I could care less what the footage looks like coming str8 out of the camera in terms of "look" - as long as its good 24p and has good res the rest should be taken care of in post, this way you are left with more options. "

cmon now matt. LOL ;)  you know i love ya man, but the ability of the camera in terms of color fidelity-noise-gamma-lattitude-shadow and highlight handling, lenses ability to handle flare and streak and chromatic abberation.. and on and on are all very important..    my webcam does 24p ..but even if it was high def.. i wouldnt try to just fix it in post.  the better the starting image.. the better your final image can be   :)  

that said, ..i really like alot of things the camera brings to the table, and think its a good choice for people to use as well as i do the DVX. ..while its not the next cam for me(waiting for 24p HD variant) it has alot to offer, and im sure that it can look excellent after some post work.
 
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So true IAL

Although I am completely stoked on my DVX I do know in about 3 or 4 years my choices will be there. I predict a true DV/HD/24p camera geared exclusively to filmmakers (not weddingographers or hobbyist). A camera exclsuively designed to meet the demands of an independent filmmaker.

:D
 
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..i think your very right.  we'll likely have a cam like that in that time.. or earlier even.  im betting that Panasonic will bring it to us, i think they learned a great deal about giving the independent filmmaker/videographer what they want with the
DVX, and just how many of us there are, and how profitable and loyal we can be..   if not them then canon.
but SONY.. lol ...yeah right.   sony will probably just paint the PD170 blue and other snazzy colors and say that its "the best filmmaking cam" because it matches your I-pod.  :p
 
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My iPod really is blue! How did you know? (iPod mini...so cool!)

I hope the next step towards a "film making" camera will be a larger CCD. HD offers acceptable resolution for blow ups, 24p offers film like motion rendering, but the DOF and particularly the dynamic range are still missing. Even if the camera were a one-chipper, a large enough CCD would be pretty fantastic. Even a single 2/3'' ccd, if good enough with colors, would bring HD to the level of good 16mm. Look at the dSLRs..most offer great color rendering and the images truly look like film. Then again, most of them use CCDs which are larger than 1'' (well, actually about 1 inch, but since CCDs are smaller than their measurement indicates....)
 
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..agreed, if the results of going to one chip were not a drastic loss in image fidelity , id glady trade 3 small ships for 1 large one and a large iris arpeture to gain the DOF and lattitude .
 
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