EVA1: EVA1 4k variable frame rate 10 bit?

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steve phillipps

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Sorry if this has been answered before, but if you shoot 4k 30P and use variable frame rate mode to shoot 60fps slow motion is it in 10 bit? I know that 4k 60P is only 8 bit - which came as a bit of a shock, considering the 3 year old and similarly-priced Sony FS7 has 10 bit everything. Is this a limit of SD cards?
Steve
 
I also don't understand this, maybe it's because more pixels are being processed for the down conversion.

I do wish we could VFR in 4K 10-bit even to a certain extent. Mitch, any chance we could get 4K 10-bit 422 VFR @ 30fps and 36fps? Even just that subtle addition can be beauty for many things and imbdue a subtle sense of slow motion that looks very nice.
 
There are only a handful of cameras in the world that shoot 4K/60p let alone @10-bit internally, so it's still a rather "new" feature believe it or not.

The FS7 was simply ahead of its time for the price (along with Blackmagic).
 
NorBro said:
There are only a handful of cameras in the world that shoot 4K/60p let alone @10-bit internally, so it's still a rather "new" feature believe it or not.
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For me it's the bare minimum any serious camcorder needs these days. The bigger boys are doing 120fps at 4k. If the GH5 can do 4k 60fps in 8 bit then a camera like the EVA1 needs to top that by some margin. Just my thoughts and for my requirements, others may vary of course. At the moment I see absolutely zero reason not to buy an FS7 - it is cheaper, has EVF loupe, higher bit rate codec, 10 bit all the way, 180fps in full frame or cropped, proven track record. I'd love a Panasonic to rule the world again...but it's going to have to really work at it.
Steve
 
4K/120p is offered by barely anyone (besides RED)...the FS5 via Shogun Inferno and URSA 4K Version 2 (via dual-card mode RAW recording) come to mind for less than $10K. The RED Raven body is $9K but not functional without additional accessories putting the price over that number...and it shoots it @18:1, which isn't ideal, but still looks nice.

Everything else is thousands of dollars more.

Even though I wouldn't buy an FS7 today, I'm with you...IMO (and no offense to anyone), the C200 and EVA1 are fairly overpriced for what they offer in 2017/18. Both are great cameras and offer amazing features, but the asking price is too high.
 
EVA-1 resolves more detail than anything in it's class by a long shot (if that matters to you).

The size/weight is significantly less than FS7 (if that matters to you).

I do wish they could edge a bit more from 4K VFR, only because size/weight is so important, less than 10-bit 422 is untennable for most pro work (with the exception a few shots here and there as needed), and the camera's main selling points are size/weight/resolved detail.

But there's still great reasons feature-set wise that it brings to the table, just depends on whatcha need/want.
 
steve phillipps said:
Sorry if this has been answered before, but if you shoot 4k 30P and use variable frame rate mode to shoot 60fps slow motion is it in 10 bit? I know that 4k 60P is only 8 bit - which came as a bit of a shock, considering the 3 year old and similarly-priced Sony FS7 has 10 bit everything. Is this a limit of SD cards?
Steve
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This is a data processing issue. In order to shoot VFR at 4K60p, you will need to be in the recording mode that captures 8-bit 420. If your system frequency is set to 29.97, then 30p is the highest available VFR.
 
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