Dvx100 or Jvc hd 100 for a short? or even hvx200. ps: see my clip

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diego80

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what would you prefer: the Dvx100 or the Jvc Hd 110??!


I have to shoot my short on sunday, tomorrow, and I am stuck at this doubt


i like a lot the color of the dvx

(see my clip)

http://www.vimeo.com/6548216

but I think that a better resolution would help me better ...

on the other hand i don't like very much the colors of the jvc ...

I really don't know what to do..

if I could I would choose the Hvx200 but I cannot ...
 
The first question is, what do you have a available to you? Are you looking at renting? Purchasing?

The DVX is still a very effective tool for storytelling. If it's what you have, then you have a lot.

I wouldn't get the JVC. I'm like you... I've never really cared for their color reproduction. And if you're really interested in HD and the HVX is out of your budget, have you thought about an HMC150? You'll still get the Panasonic look that you like about the DVX, and you won't have to pay as much as the HVX.
 
I have already set a rent for tomorrow


I get a jvc dh110, a crane, a dolly and a tripo for 200 euros (which is a good price)

but i am not sure about the jvc

he service itself does not have the hvx200, but i can still switch the jvc with a dvx

(which is the camera i used for that clip)

i don' t know what to do


I fear that i would have problems if i mean to watch my movie on a larger cinema screen with the dvx ...

but I really don't feel very satisfied with those colors ...
 
Get the DVX. Plenty of indie films have shot on DVX for projection to larger screens. The image control, and the signature "look," of the DVX can't be matched by the JVC.

If it's a 100a or 100b, shoot 24pA squeeze. If it's the original 100, shoot 24pA 4:3 (it doesn't have squeeze) and do the 16:9 cropping in post.
 
C2V said:
Get the DVX. Plenty of indie films have shot on DVX for projection to larger screens. The image control, and the signature "look," of the DVX can't be matched by the JVC.
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Quite a few commercial productions, including movies, have been short with JVC HDV cams. The JVC he will be shooting with is HD, widescreen and shoulder mount, which the DVX is neither. As to the looks, everything is tweakable.

Some case studies here: http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/case_hist.jsp?model_id=MDL101623&feature_id=10 There was another movie I wanted to refer to, but cannot find a link...
 
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Cranky said:
Quite a few commercial productions, including movies, have been short with JVC HDV cams.
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And quite a few of those have been shot with the DVX, such as the feature "Broken," not to mention "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" (at least in the first season).

Cranky said:
The JVC he will be shooting with is HD, widescreen and shoulder mount, which the DVX is neither. As to the looks, everything is tweakable.
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The DVX is not shoulder mount... while shoulder mount is still an advantage, the impact is becoming less and less as shooting styles develop around the smaller cameras.

It is not HD, but that's the least pressing issue in my opinion. The DVX is still relevant and still makes a beautiful image. My personal preference, while everything is tweakable, is that the DVX's image looks better, SD vs. HD notwithstanding.

An edit to my earlier post: I realize that this is a camera rental in Europe, which means 24pA doesn't enter into it. 25p is the only option outside of 50i for the DVX.
 
Hi diego80, do the HD110. The colors are fine and can be tweaked anyway you like in post. Get ClipWrap for the M2T files. No need to go back to SD. People here love Panasonic, as do I but sometimes you just have to move on. By the way Gabriel was shot on the HD100 or 110.

-Nate
 
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But the DVX100 is (for SD DVD work) is still 4:1:1 versus DVCpro50 4:2:2 of the HVX200B )for SD DVD work). 99% of my clients want an SD DVD,widescreen at 16:9.
 
Patrick Forestell said:
But the DVX100 is (for SD DVD work) is still 4:1:1 versus DVCpro50 4:2:2 of the HVX200B )for SD DVD work). 99% of my clients want an SD DVD,widescreen at 16:9.
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hi patrick,

what does that mean?

and what does those compression ratios mean?

I think anyway I can make an Sd Dvd widescreen at 16:9 also with a jvc ..

don't you think?
 
anyway, thanks to everyone for the answers

I don't need a shoulder mount, as all the scenes are shot on a tripod
 
The 4:2:2 yieds better color space than the 4:1:1 does.

I can see the difference.

I have always thought, that making an SD DVD from a HD signal looks over processed versus just making an SD DVD right from the get-go at 4:2:2 SD.
 
I believe the JVC-100 (or at least the JVC-100u I've used) is packing a Fujinon broadcast lens? This lens is going to be what matters. It is of very high quality, is very fast (f/1.4) and has a range of 5.5mm to like 80 (I think there is a crop factor though.) This lens can get you great shallow depth of field compared to the DVX and is also very versatile.

So the question is, is the JVC-100 you have available packing that Fujinon broadcast lens? Cause if so that's the way to go.

Some things to be careful about on the JVC-100...make sure you're using the focus assist and that the lens' backfocus is set properly on the line. Don't trust the LCD, when you first get it check the focus and make sure the focus assist is working properly. I know it's possible for the back-focus on those cameras to get messed up and no longer work properly, resulting in a blurry image, but it's probably unlikely, but check anyway.

Anyway, conclusion again, the JVC is probably packing nicer glass, and shoots HD, go with that.
 
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