Dublin's People: Phil's first 1080p24 short from the 7D

I spent an hour messing around with the color and exposure in After Effects last night and was quite impressed - it wasn't hard to get a more natural grade and remove all those orange tones from the sodium lights, and by tweaking exposure and gamma (across the whole image, rather than 3-way) I was able to recover between 2 & 3 stops on many shots before seeing any artefacting.

Also, I was amazed how crisp it all looked at 100% - aliasing was not really an issue, even on shots where you'd expect to see it like the close-up of the guy wearing glasses.
 
Michael Olsen said:
Here's what I see from the 1080p download:

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I downloaded the original and yes, it seems to be a vimeo artifact that I was seeing.


Upon closer inspection, the only thing that worries me is the 'edgyness' that I see in a lot of the footage from the 7D. It's mostly visible with deep DOF shots that have high contrast or over exposed highlights. It's the same way on a GH1 where it feels like it's been over sharpened, but maybe it's just a dynamic range issue where the slope to over exposure is very sharp.....:huh: I'm sure that can be cleared up with proper lighting.
 
Tim - It's probably the regular old standard settings. I wouldn't worry about it. It's the same thing that happens with every camera. Just need to get your hands on it and dial down sharpness (looks like it's up here) and everything else.
 
Tim Joy said:
Upon closer inspection, the only thing that worries me is the 'edgyness' that I see in a lot of the footage from the 7D. It's mostly visible with deep DOF shots that have high contrast or over exposed highlights.
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If you look at the shot around 1:36 (3 gays walking away from the camera in a dark alley towards a courtyard with several lights which are blown out), I've got that up in AE right now...and even that is surprisingly tweakable.
 
don't forget what you are looking at is heavily compressed version, even the download. It's the native files as I edited in Pro Res and exported H264 mp4 8000kbps
 
Eddy Robinson said:
If you look at the shot around 1:36 (3 gays walking away from the camera in a dark alley towards a courtyard with several lights which are blown out), I've got that up in AE right now...and even that is surprisingly tweakable.
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The shot of the three guys at 1:36 is my fav shot (closely followed by the one at 1:25)! I love how it's lit!


P.S. How could you possibly tell they are gay? lol
 
Right the compression is 8.5mbits/sec which just shows the quality of the output is so good even at 1/6th compression. I wonder how good it looks in the original file, sweet!

Great work Mr. Bloom 7D Master!
 
Also Philip, not sure if you will see this post, but is so (and if you have time), I would love to get your opinion on this lens:

http://www.camerastore.com.au/Canon+EF+35mm+f2.0_419_details.htm

I originally wanted a GH1, but thanks to your video, I have been swayed to 7D :) I'm on a really tight budget (recently unemployed, full-time University student), and would just like a lens that will deliver similar quality to what you shot in "Dublin's People". I'm new to DSLR's, and even newer to lenses (I've been shooting with handycams and fixed lenses my whole life). I originally had my heart set on this:

http://www.camerastore.com.au/ProShop/Canon+EF+50mm+f1.4+USM_403_details.htm

But I'm fearful of what it would look like as it will become an 80mm lens...right?

Would it be hard to shoot at 80mm or something? (sorry for the novice questions!)

Thanks for your time!! :)
 
Jean Dantes said:
P.S. How could you possibly tell they are gay? lol
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D'oh! Anyway, working with the uncompressed clip (Jean-Jacques smoking a cigarette and then mugging for the camera around 1:14) the original is definitely richer. Not sure how to quantify it...looks like approximately 2x the color resolution.

You can see gradients are a lot smoother zoomed in to 1600%, zooming in on the right eyeball there are reflection details that disappear altogether from the vimeo version; jacking the contrast up to ~80% made it really noticeable everywhere in the image, with the vimeo version looking like it was made out of 4-pixel blocks. There's a lot more shadow detail in the original.

Now I'm going to be dreaming about the giant floating eye of Jean-Jacques all night :-)
 
Jean Dantes said:
Also Philip, not sure if you will see this post, but is so (and if you have time), I would love to get your opinion on this lens:

http://www.camerastore.com.au/Canon+EF+35mm+f2.0_419_details.htm

I originally wanted a GH1, but thanks to your video, I have been swayed to 7D :) I'm on a really tight budget (recently unemployed, full-time University student), and would just like a lens that will deliver similar quality to what you shot in "Dublin's People". I'm new to DSLR's, and even newer to lenses (I've been shooting with handycams and fixed lenses my whole life). I originally had my heart set on this:

http://www.camerastore.com.au/ProShop/Canon+EF+50mm+f1.4+USM_403_details.htm

But I'm fearful of what it would look like as it will become an 80mm lens...right?

Would it be hard to shoot at 80mm or something? (sorry for the novice questions!)

Thanks for your time!! :)
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35mm on the 7d is the ideal base lens. Ideally f1.4 if you can but f2 would be ok as a starter...50mm is a great portrait lens for the 7d but shitty for wides!!
 
philip bloom said:
i went with neutral. Normally i go with neutral and with contrast down, sharpness down, saturation down two notches and highlight tone priority enabled for a very flat image
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This scares me. So this is with tweaked settings? Or is it just the standard neutral profile untweaked? As in sharpness hasn't been dialed down.

I was hoping not...
 
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