I hope they don't recall all the cameras to replace the codec, with the CEO being forced to the panel with an apology like Toyota and Nissan did
Sure. Because you know what you are buying. In case of GH1 you don't know what you are buying.
They compensate codec deficiency with bandwidth. Brute force approach, but it works. It worked with CF first, now it works with SDHC. If Panasonic did the same no one would bother about B-frames. If Panasonic used a solution from a 2006 camcorder no one would have stinked either.
I said "MPEG-2". MJPEG is not MPEG-2.
I have never pledged allegiance to anyone. Sony sucks too. Is this a reason for everyone to suck?
This is a Panasonic forum, hence presense of Panasonic reps, well just one rep lately. On other forums there are reps from other manufacturers. And by the way, what is the point of a rep who discounts a problem (sticky focus ring) saying it is not a problem, and who disappears when asked about another problem (9 Mbit/s actual bitrate in PH mode instead of 21-24 Mbit/s in a scene with fast-flashing strobe lights, which causes macroblocking never seen on a consumer Canon HDV cam)? You yourself quoted a Canon rep with 20+ years of service that Canon would never release a firmware upgrade. Canon did release it. What such reps are worth? They are salespeople. They push stuff that has already been designed and produced. They know nothing about future developments. They don't care about delivering users' message to the R&D team. All these stories about how the DVX had been designed with 24p and stuff, who was asking questions? Salespeople from Panasonic USA? No, these were Japanese guys who flew to the States and who were to actually build the thing.
You're buying a consumer camera from the consumer division, which shoots still pictures and has a video feature. How do people not know what they're buying?
So, let me see how this works -- Panasonic makes DVCPRO-HD at 100mbps, perfect intraframe quality, no goofy motion problems whatsoever, and JVC and Canon and Sony come up with a goofy long-GoP codec that has the potential of destroying shots, but takes up 1/4 of the space, and people say "yeah, but P2's too expensive, it takes up too much space, these files are soooo much easier to work with."
They had options. They actually implemented multiple options. But it's only a good choice if they choose MPEG-2???
No, but perhaps it's reason enough for you to quit singling out one manufacturer for lambasting, over and over and over.
It is not a "panasonic" forum, it has no allegiance to or business relationship with Panasonic, this is a community of videomakers, and this is probably the largest community for most camcorder users, and is probably one of if not the largest/most active Canon DSLR forum.
Really? Name one.
She never said it wasn't a problem, she said there was nothing they could do about it and people will have to work around it. At least that problem can be worked around, in multiple ways. How do you work around when your audio inputs hiss like mad (PD150) or your camera has a gridline pattern all over the footage (XL1) or your camera has a massive split screen issue down the center (JVC) or your paint rubs off so you can't even read what the buttons say (EX1)? Well, I guess with the last one you could get a sharpie...
Okay, right about here I'm gonna take huge exception to your rant. You can say this about Canon if you want, but if you think that's the way it works with Panasonic, you are so wrong that it's insane. Panasonic DEVELOPED the DVX100 because of us on the forums. Panasonic came to us and asked us what we wanted. Panasonic USA has asked us to put together wishlists of what we want the factory to build. Recently Panasonic even had me put together a focus group to get shooters together to tell them exactly what we want. We built wishlists and I delivered them directly to Jan, who is the product manager for the USA's AVCCAM and P2 handheld lines, and that formed largely the basis for the HPX170 being developed the way it was.
Cranky, you don't have any idea what you're talking about and you really, really need to stop. The people asking the questions were Stuart English and Jan Crittenden and Steve Golub, all three members (at the time) of the Panasonic USA team. Not the Japanese engineers. I was there on the original DV-L list back in 2001/2002 when it was happening. You don't know what you're talking about, you didn't even get involved at all with video until 2 years ago, you need to just take a step back and admit you're dead wrong on this.
Agreed
You know what does make it feel like Panasonic doesn't care? These new G2 and G10 cameras....ew.
Sony have said (somewhere, sorry no link) that the PS3 is planned to have a ten year product life. In other words, ten years after its release, they intend it still to be competitive in the market, by means of firmware upgrades (hopefully one will include not going ape when it gets in a muddle about leap years...) which are made available to existing and new users. Now if Panasonic had a similar plan for the GH1 I could see your point, but I rather doubt it.
