Do not want! - Lucas messes with the trilogy again.

Jawa Ex Machina said:
I'm still not sure about the slave thing. Seems like it wouldn't have much to do with the rest of the themes.

I think a more interesting fall from grace would be if Padme wasn't interested in him at all, but he fell in love with her. Then out of jealousy he'd use his jedi skills to start manipulating her, and that would be the start of his fall into corruption.

Hell, maybe there could be a love triangle between anakin, obi-wan and padme or something. That'd be more relevant to the characters than Anakin being a slave.
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But I wouldn't buy that character transition. For someone to become as evil and sadistic as Vader was in episode IV-VI...there needs to be a stronger bedrock for his anger/fear, more than just being rejected by a chick. The slave thing isn't relevant to the story as is, but I'd junk most of what Lucas did anyway. Maybe start with Anakin leading a slave rebellion. Lucas was attempting to do something requiring far more nuance than he is capable of. The OT works because of its simplicity, a rebel uprising against an oppressive Empire. We don't need to know the politics of that repression to sympathize with the rebels. It's set up in the crawl and we're off to the races. A drama set within a crumbling republic, a character's moral corruption, is the stuff of Shakespeare. Lucas ain't no Shakespeare.
 
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Batutta said:
But I wouldn't buy that character transition. For someone to become as evil and sadistic as Vader was in episode IV-VI...there needs to be a stronger bedrock for his anger/fear, more than just being rejected by a chick. The slave thing isn't relevant to the story as is, but I'd junk most of what Lucas did anyway. Maybe start with Anakin leading a slave rebellion. Lucas was attempting to do something requiring far more nuance than he is capable of. The OT works because of its simplicity, a rebel uprising against an oppressive Empire. We don't need to know the politics of that repression to sympathize with the rebels. It's set up in the crawl and we're off to the races. A drama set within a crumbling republic, a character's moral corruption, is the stuff of Shakespeare. Lucas ain't no Shakespeare.
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There is nothing Lucas could have done that would have lived up to the backstory created in the audience's mind after the original trilogy. That is why the prequels were a bad idea, because all they could do was cheapen the story.

As Patton Oswalt said, nobody really wanted to see exactly how Darth Vader became Darth Vader. It is better as mystery.
 
Plus, no one really wanted the overall story to be retconned into being about Vader's fall and redemption. He was the villain, not the hero.
 
Yes. The moment of redemption he earns at the end of TROTJ was satisfying, and it was just enough.

Jawa Ex Machina said:
I'm sure you could make an interesting movie from those ideas, and I'm sure Lucas tried that, but a STAR WARS movie?? That's supposed to be entertainment.
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Well, none of all that should serve as more than backdrop. I agree that watching Old Republic Sentaors wrangle over trade routes and procedures is not much more entertaining that watching C-SPAN. Although if the US Senate flew around the Capitol Building in hover-saucers while debating, I might watch more C-Span.
 
agcohn said:
There is nothing Lucas could have done that would have lived up to the backstory created in the audience's mind after the original trilogy. That is why the prequels were a bad idea, because all they could do was cheapen the story.

As Patton Oswalt said, nobody really wanted to see exactly how Darth Vader became Darth Vader. It is better as mystery.
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Probably the ultimate truth...but we got one anyway, and it certainly could have been much better.
 
There would have been Dutch pans on Jabba's slave girls, all doing the twist with a zombie-like expression.
 
Luke would have found an ear on Tatooine. And that would have been the catalyst that set the whole show in motion. And sides, I'm not buying Laura Dern as a Princess.
 
Sad Max said:
Of course the logical conclusion to all this is that eventually Lucas re-jiggers everything to make it the fulfillment of his utterly incoherent and incomprehensible original story notes (Luke Starkiller, Han Solo is a lizard, etc) and thus erase every last trace of the movie that actually hit screens in '77.
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And then there's this 1988 testimony to Congress, arguing against colorizing old monochrome films, from none other than George Lucas (or, apparently, Bizarro Lucas):

People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians, and if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior, history will surely classify us as a barbaric society.


In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be “replaced” by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.


Attention should be paid to this question of our soul, and not simply to accounting procedures. Attention should be paid to the interest of those who are yet unborn, who should be able to see this generation as it saw itself, and the past generation as it saw itself.
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I think I'm going to go back and start editing all of my DVXUser posts from 2008. Just because.
 
Alex H. said:
And then there's this 1988 testimony to Congress, arguing against colorizing old monochrome films, from none other than George Lucas (or, apparently, Bizarro Lucas):



I think I'm going to go back and start editing all of my DVXUser posts from 2008. Just because.
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Go edit the beginning of them and add:

Noooooooooo!

It will surely change the feeling of your posts!

:)
 
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