C100: DJI ronin C100

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eggoyuken

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Might be a bit of a useless post considering there is only 2 shots but I thought some of you (specifically c100-300 users) might have questions about how the ronin handles the camera.

Wish I had more but we didnt think set up would take as long as it did (bit of a learning curve initially) and once we began shooting our light was pretty much gone. These were literally the only 2 that were useable.

In my opinion its a great tool but only if you have someone controlling pan and tilt remotely. Maybe it takes a bit more practice but I felt like I had a bit more control using a glidecam than this. I'll admit that briefcase mode and overhead mode work really well, but unfortunately the app was giving us some problems....the settings wouldn't save when changed. Will take it out a few more times and hopefully I'll have something soon if any of you are interested.

Shot using rokinon 35mm. Post stabilization on the first clip (basic warp stabilizer....was pretty smooth regardless.) None on second clip

https://vimeo.com/105130081

pw ronintest
 
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Just edited my post should have mentioned before. We weren't able to get it 100% smooth for some reason so the movements had some shake to them in the raw clips. The closest we were able to get was in the second clip but you can still see a bit of shake (not too bad though)
 
By searching the term "dji Ronin" on Vimeo and then sorting by date, the clips are coming in at an hourly rate (without password). There are about 15 pages worth of clips showing the most diverse situations/tests and reviews. For anyone looking into this I'd start there.

Eggoyuken, I really mean no offence, but this video and post about it seems a bit rushed. In my research of the Ronin (most likely getting one myself) I've concluded that it is indeed heavy, but otherwise it really delivers: performance, packaging, quality, usability, friendliness and so on.

Many clips use a RED of some sort, so it has been established that the C100-500 line would not be a problem at all.

Please DO make another video showing the Ronin in conjunction with Dual Pixel AF. That would be nice. But make sure there aren't any "this doesn't seem quite right" moments, because this gimbal should balance and calibrate pretty easily.

Give it another go when you're not under the pressure of a fading sun!
 
I used the Ronin last weekend with a C100 as well and was really pleased with the results for run'n'gun event shooting (action and smiles, etc). Only issue I had was that the C100 was a little wide when the grip was attached and I wasn't able to center the weight with it attached. Very nice gimbal overall though.
 
Has anyone tried mounting the grip on handle bar of Ronin or any 3 axis gimbal for locking focus using the Dual Pixel AF?
 
That would be the way to go. I saw a wedding videographer do that with the Movi. Hopefully possible with the Ronin. Then one could turn the AF Continuous on and off while moving and finding focus. (With the Dual Pixel upgrade of course). A tempting tool but like all but highest-end stabilizers seems to me only works well with moving subject in frame. Then we're talking only a marginal advantage over good handheld work which has its own energy and is sometimes more appropriate.
 
indiawilds said:
Has anyone tried mounting the grip on handle bar of Ronin or any 3 axis gimbal for locking focus using the Dual Pixel AF?
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I have, it works good with the overpriced zacuto grip re-locator. I haven't seen any elegant mounting solutions so you will have to rig something yourself. Keep in mind that until someone develops a secure mounting solution, you are mounting it as an accessory and not as an actual grip. Even mounted to an m5 I felt like it was too much weight for the c100 grip, with the ronin weighing in at double the amount it will definitely not be an option.

Given how popular this setup is becoming I hope a third party will create either an external control box or extension cable that is thinner and more flexible for gimbal use.
 
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icarusfilm said:
How do you like the atlas?
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indiawilds said:
I use this http://www.atlascamerasupport.com/
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Mine broke (well, the rod began to dismantle) after 8 uses. And that's just with a bare C100. It is also only a modified tent rod in a flimsy body harness. Pro is, it packs small and light. But with the added weight of the gimbal, I would`t trust it, even with one of the stronger rods. The basic idea of the Atlas is great. But it needs to be kicked up from version 1.0 to 3.0. Bit the bullet and got a Turtle/Easy-rig in the end.
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I haven't done an review of The Atlas Rig as I wanted to use it for sometime before giving my views.

It is a simple idea where a flexible rod flexes a bit and supports the weight of your camera when attached/hung to the rod. So the vertical axis is more or less stable.

There are two sets of rods. The white rod is for lower weight and the black for heavier cameras. Each rod comes in two pieces and needs to be screwed in to achieve the complete length. This also helps while traveling.

When I got the rig, I just put the white rod and used a heavier set up to test and pulled it way beyond it can flex. As a result the outer coating of the white rod cracked as shown by Spartacus in his images.

The correct practice is to lift your camera/lens rig and attach it to the rods instead of pulling down the rods to your chest height which I had done to crack the rod. The reason is that the rods are designed to only flex a bit. If it flexes more than the vertical axis would be compromised. So I wouldn't blame the manufacturer.

The vest: I too agree that the vest should be more meaty.

The atlas rig packs small. So I can place it in my tripod bag or even in my suitcase and carry it while traveling.

I can easily use a C300 and lens and pan smoothly which I can't do with as well with handheld. There are places where I can't carry my heavy tripod setup. In those places this rig works fine.

The manufacturer/inventor (as he has an approved patent for this) Michael Knowles is a shooter himself. He has told me that with practice one can very well walk fast. I had bought this one to use in a horror film where the fellows are running. So I could make use of it. However, it is not a steadicam or a three axis gimbal. So don't expect miracles. When used along with a 3 axis gimbal this would work great. You can also use it with your shoulder rig. During long takes this will ensure that your rig doesn't dip infront of you and helps remove the jitters.

I buy many expensive stuff like the OConnors, but can't justify the price of the easy rig. The atlas rig is a simple contraption, easy to carry, easy on my pocket and works fine for my needs.
 
DJI Ronin and Canon C100

DJI Ronin and Canon C100

I mounted the C100 on the Ronin today and had a major issue. We couldn't get it to balance, fit and mount with the handle in any position. The manual says it supports the C100 but I'd love to hear from an owner and how they manage to mount it with the handle. All the photos I've seen are without and the camera isn't really functional without the handle - you can't go removing it every time you need to change camera settings - not practical.

Anyone out there had success?

Without the handle it was great - very smooth - we shot a quick scene in and out of a car, up and down stairs, running and it handled it well - just have to get that handle on-board!

eggoyuken said:
Might be a bit of a useless post considering there is only 2 shots but I thought some of you (specifically c100-300 users) might have questions about how the ronin handles the camera.

Wish I had more but we didnt think set up would take as long as it did (bit of a learning curve initially) and once we began shooting our light was pretty much gone. These were literally the only 2 that were useable.

In my opinion its a great tool but only if you have someone controlling pan and tilt remotely. Maybe it takes a bit more practice but I felt like I had a bit more control using a glidecam than this. I'll admit that briefcase mode and overhead mode work really well, but unfortunately the app was giving us some problems....the settings wouldn't save when changed. Will take it out a few more times and hopefully I'll have something soon if any of you are interested.

Shot using rokinon 35mm. Post stabilization on the first clip (basic warp stabilizer....was pretty smooth regardless.) None on second clip

https://vimeo.com/105130081

pw ronintest
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