"DJI Added to “Economic Blacklist” in the United States"

alaskacameradude said:
I think if you watch the whole video
he posts identical scenes where he really
goes in and ‘pixel peeps’. Of course you may
have to get 7 minutes in or so before that happens.
Or maybe I posted the wrong video, there are a lot
of comparison videos between these two drones out
there. However most will show the EVOii Pro 6k is
at the very least a viable alternative to
the Mavic Pro 2.
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You're probably absolutely right. But my point was, if it's a comparison, show me some type of direct, head-to-head, same scene comparison off the top. If he would have done that, I may have watched the whole thing.

I'd like to see a real, viable alternative to DJI, if just to keep the market evolving. I want a drone with customizable obstacle detection/avoidance. DJI's "360 type system" on the Mavic 2 Pro is too sensitive with too much of a space buffer.
 
Run&Gun said:
You're probably absolutely right. But my point was, if it's a comparison, show me some type of direct, head-to-head, same scene comparison off the top. If he would have done that, I may have watched the whole thing.

I'd like to see a real, viable alternative to DJI, if just to keep the market evolving. I want a drone with customizable obstacle detection/avoidance. DJI's "360 type system" on the Mavic 2 Pro is too sensitive with too much of a space buffer.
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Haha, but you are probably a broadcast professional.
YouTubers don’t seem to understand the ‘get to the point’
thing. I can’t tell you how many times I have clicked on
a YouTube video to refresh my mind on how to do something
relatively simple. And 4 minutes later after being urged
to ‘like and subscribe’ and being told all about what sort
of content has been on this channel and what is yet to come
I have clicked over to another video in frustration.
Seems to be relatively common among YouTubers.
 
alaskacameradude said:
Haha, but you are probably a broadcast professional.
YouTubers don’t seem to understand the ‘get to the point’
thing. I can’t tell you how many times I have clicked on
a YouTube video to refresh my mind on how to do something
relatively simple. And 4 minutes later after being urged
to ‘like and subscribe’ and being told all about what sort
of content has been on this channel and what is yet to come
I have clicked over to another video in frustration.
Seems to be relatively common among YouTubers.
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most of it would be more efficiently ingested in written form, anyway. with an occasional clip presented to illustrate the point at hand.

hey, that sounds like newsshooter!
 
Yeah, I actually prefer that format too. Newsshooter
is one of my favs. I actually write reviews for
digital filmmaker on occasion as well as on my
blog and that’s exactly how I do it.
 
I'm late to the party, but was did DJI do that Apple don't? They both sell Chinese products into US and Europe?
 
For starters, Apple is an American company...so you'd think products are regulated well on the home front.
 
In 2015, the Chinese government passed what is known as the National Security Law, which legally binds any private enterprises to adhere to the national concerns followed by the National Intelligence Law of 2017. The language was broad enough but the effect was the Chinese government has the de facto complete control over the nominally independent businesses. To what extent the control is being exercised in open to interpretation.

If one's interested, this is one take (there are others)

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/02/07/we-cant-tell-if-chinese-firms-work-for-the-party/

Side note, an FB acquaintance visited China a year ago or so and found access to Internet hard to come by. She was looking for something in Russian or, at worst, English and found that those sites were blocked.
 
And still the US trade deficit is getting larger. In the long term outsourcing can be bad for the economics.
 
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DLD said:
I haven't heard of the 50 Cent Army until ten minutes ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party
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yawn. old news in every country

but I certainly think it's true that the internet - which we were told would bring knowledge, freedom and democracy to every corner of the globe - has become an incredibly useful tool for anti-democratic propaganda. I think that the power you can wield as an organized entity (especially one with control of the internet infrastructure itself) is beyond the dreams of 20th century dictators
 
And this thread is probably about to be nullified. I'm going out on a limb and saying that most, if not all, of these sanctions will be lifted as quickly as possible.
 
Greg_E said:
And this thread is probably about to be nullified. I'm going out on a limb and saying that most, if not all, of these sanctions will be lifted as quickly as possible.
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SHANGHAI (Reuters) - China's Ministry of Commerce on Saturday published new rules for countering "unjustified" laws and restrictions imposed by foreign countries on Chinese companies and citizens, as economic relations between Beijing and Washington deteriorate.
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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/china-counter-unjustified-foreign-trade-054618465.html
 
Yep. Read a new story about how on recently, Walmart cancelled several contracts with USA-based suppliers and moved those contracts to China. Back to financing resort camps where people can really concentrate.
 
mcbob said:
Yep. Read a new story about how on recently, Walmart cancelled several contracts with USA-based suppliers and moved those contracts to China. Back to financing resort camps where people can really concentrate.
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My quarter says that after the Biden inauguration, the DJI contract limitations will be removed and they'll be back in biz in the US.
 
mcbob said:
Yep. Read a new story about how on recently, Walmart cancelled several contracts with USA-based suppliers and moved those contracts to China. Back to financing resort camps where people can really concentrate.
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And it’s part of a cyclical/self-aggrandizing problem. “We” want cheap stuff. It costs more to make it here than in some Asian factory. “We” buy the cheap stuff, the manufacturers continue to off-shore more manufacturing to keep costs down/profits up, which eliminates more jobs here, which means people need even cheaper stuff, etc., etc.
 
Firstbase said:
My quarter says that after the Biden inauguration, the DJI contract limitations will be removed and they'll be back in biz in the US.
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Not a guarantee. There is somewhat broad-based support for pushback against China IMO. But it may be used as the bargaining chip it always was
 
The Autel Evo II Pro (6k) is awfully good. 6k 30P, 4K up to 60P or 2k up to 120p.
1 inch Sony sensor. 10 Bit color and log profiles. Independently control iso, shutter
speed, and iris. Great battery life....they claim 40 minutes and it's actually approaching
that in real life. No geofencing. It's a pretty good alternative to the Mavic Pro 2.
I just got mine and have only flown it once so far (lots of rain in Alaska in the winter)
but I could post a couple shots if you want.
Here's one of many 'shootout' videos....yeah the YouTubers do these for drones too
not just cameras.


Thanks for posting....have found DJI a very frustrating company to deal with...was considering the Mavic Pro 2 for a project but will look at the Autel Evo 2 Pro instead...in the video posted the image quality looked better IMO and though I’ve flown a Mavic Pro and they are very easy to fly, dealing with DJI for me has been terrible.
 
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