D7100 users: 60p? 60i? What's your experience?

Michael Carter

Michael Carter

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Thinking of pulling the 7100 trigger - but I'm a little confused as to Dmovie on this body.

I've read reviews that state 60p at 720 means using the 1.3 crop mode (essentially making a longer FOV even longer...)

I've read Nikon's blurb that you can choose 60p@720, or 1080 at 60i via the crop mode.

Can anyone clear up how this works? Is 60/720 using the full sensor, same as Canon? And you can get 1080i with a crop sensor?

If the camera does shoot 60i @ 1080, how's the quality?

And overall - are you happy with jello, moire, color rendering? Anyone seeing the horizontal shadow-noise I'm reading about these days? I really like the video rendering of my D7000, but no 720/60 is an issue for me - as is the much more gelatinous scan rate compared to even a T2i.

Thanks for any scoop on this.
 
* I wouldn't worry about the FPN in the shadows. It's there, but only when you bring the shadows up with an aggressive picture profile. If you consider that anything showing FPN in the D5200 would be clipped to black in your D7000 (or a GH2 or GH3), well, then it's not a problem.

* If this is useful to you in any way, at 1080p24, I've measured the D5200 rolling shutter at 22.4 ms, against e.g. 25.9 for the 5D2. http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthrea...g-rolling-shutter-put-a-number-on-this-issue!
 
Only the 1080i60 and 1080i50 frame rates require the 1.3x crop mode. This is because the camera scans the sensor twice on alternate fields (thus interlaced). All the progressive frame rates (1080p30, 1080p25, 1080p24, 720p60, 720p50) can use the full sensor DX mode or the 1.3 crop mode. I've never shot in interlaced mode, but according to dpreview, there is a slight loss of quallity: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-d7100/23

Jello is there, but it's about the same as any good CMOS camera. I don't really notice any moire or FPN in my real life shots. Color rendering is good if your exposure is correct. If you start clipping (the red channel clips first on skin tones), then skin tones will look crappy. So protect your highlights when you shoot.
 
Thanks guys - for my tastes, the D7000 color beats Canon by far, even when using a custom profile on Canon and "portrait" on the Nikon with the sharpness/sat/contrast kicked down a bit. But it's got way more jello, sounds like the 7100 has improved on this.

Thinking of ditching canon for good and not messing with lens adapters again... well, there's renting those Red Ones, but hey, I can deal with Nikkors on a Red!
 
From my own experiences (I have been a 7D and 5DMK2 shooter), D7100 is a definite step up. The colors are way better, sharpness is almost close to GH2 (daniel has proved that), Low light is also good, DR is better and jello is something I can deal with and control (there was jello in all those cameras as well). D7100 was the right move for me. It is a brilliant camera that gives you a brilliant image. I would like to quote Samuel Hurtado here that the camera you have is not failing you, maybe its your skills. If you could get passable (and not great) footage from a 7D, dont expect a D7100 or a 5DMK3 or a GH3 to cover that up. These days any camera can give you a brilliant image.
 
Of course the camera won't work magic or improve anyone's skills, but also consider this: if he's got a D7000 and a Canon to sell, the switch to a D7100 is basically free (if that canon is a 7D, he'll actually be making a profit with the switch).
 
sharry said:
I would like to quote Samuel Hurtado here that the camera you have is not failing you, maybe its your skills. .
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No, on the contrary, I've eked a lot of quality from the 7000 and the Canon. But I've shot Nikon for close to two decades of commercial fashion and product (along with 4x5 and MF film). But the 7000 couldn't replace the Canon - no 1080/60 and very noticeable jello. Yep, lovely color. But as a video camera, yes - the D7000 is "failing" me, not the other way around.

All my glass is fast FX Nikkor with aperture rings, so ditching adapters would be fine with me. And the 7100 beats the pants off the 7000 for still quality, which is saying a lot.

Can't knock the t2i though - I shot this video with one (minus a couple crane shots) - I got this gig 3 hours before the performance, and the D7000 couldn't have handled this much motion. But it's the little canon that could, just show up and shoot.

 
I love my t2i, but man, in the past month and a half I've had the d7100, I'm sold!

It beats the t2i by so much with the same lenses.

The 7100 and a completely different animal than the 7000 isnt it? totally different sensor, a ton of different video features and just years of technology improvements.

I'm really digging my 7100. It has a LOT more DR than the t2i and handles highlights so well!

I still have my t2i as a back up second camera, but it has not been turned on in a few weeks. I'm actually debating selling it and buying some more kit or a second body that gives me something different.

I'm actually kind of surprised you haven't gotten the 7100 yet Michael, You'll love it.
 
homestar_kevin said:
I'm actually kind of surprised you haven't gotten the 7100 yet Michael, You'll love it.
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Been too damn busy! Ordered a 7100 today though... I'll probably sell my 7000 and my T2i. I'll have the T2i with rails, a cavision loupe (no magnets, mounts to the camera bottom) and a Nikon 28mm 2.8 with adapter, so it'll be a nice getting-started setup for someone. THat setup has served me very well for a few years now.
 
Psyched. New gear!!!

And a lot of my income is still from stills, so the 7100 will make me a happy little gear freak indeed. People are reporting amazing sharpness with the filter out of the equation.

My 7000 is mint, got all the packaging and accessories and an aftermarket grip (which has been dynamite). Should pull $650 or so on eBay or locally.
 
I just ordered a D7100 as well. I will likely use it predominantly for stills, but I'm really looking forward to testing the video capabilities as well. I also have a Panasonic AF100A and a Sony FS700 so I'll be doing some DR comparisons (using the same Nikon lenses) for my own edification. It will be interesting! Gotta love new toys -- especially when they pay for themselves!
 
Firstbase said:
I just ordered a D7100 as well. I will likely use it predominantly for stills, but I'm really looking forward to testing the video capabilities as well. I also have a Panasonic AF100A and a Sony FS700 so I'll be doing some DR comparisons (using the same Nikon lenses) for my own edification. It will be interesting! Gotta love new toys -- especially when they pay for themselves!
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After reading the initial reviews on the A7r/rx10, I'm also picking up a D7100. I have several Nikon lenses I use on my FS100, so I'm definitely looking forward to your results.
 
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