D600 is out

Zim said:
"full-time AF with face-priority and subject tracking" If I'm reading it right it looks like it does.
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With autofocus, not too big size, tolerable price but can be better vs d6, are we talking November availabilty for the ones not preordering.
 
I will wait for some reviews. I would like to upgrade my D300s and D200 for photography but also need to upgrade the DVX100b. It would be nice to kill to birds with one stone.
 
macgregor said:
The GH3 so far looks like an excellent VIDEOcamera. Very sharp and not that much aliasing. The Nikon is much softer, but offers a whole different image, with a more natural tone curve and colorimetry. Call it more filmic if you want. So I think it´s compeltely legimit to compare these 2 cameras, and I feel the choice in the end will have to do more with taste than any other thing.

They'll both probably be bad cameras. That's why I gave up on DSLRs and bought a Sony F35. :)
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Miguel, comparing apples to oranges, it'll always bring trouble to the chooser if the bird has no previously idea on what (carrots? :D) she's picking up.
 
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Nikon makes great cameras. For professional video, I'm not totally sold yet. The video does look pretty nice overall. From the D7000, D5100, D800... all of them have just been, "nice". I think this would make the ultimate travel cam; mind blowing pictures & solid HD video- a great combination really. But for indie / narrative filmmakers, it seems to lack that cinematic / filmic vibe that other DSLRs have. I just couldn't see myself using this seriously for something more narrative based. For pictures however, I'm practically salivating. Really thinking of picking this up as my first serious DSLR for photography.
 
Here's the word from DPReview on the D600:

The D600's UI is all but identical to the DX-format D7000, and It shares the same 39-point AF system. In terms of functionality though, the D600 also has a lot in common with its big brother the D800, particularly when it coms to video specification. Something that we didn't expect on the D600 was the ability to shoot uncompressed video footage via HDMI. This, plus a mic socket for an external microphone, and a headphone jack should make the D600 very appealing to videographers. The only real difference between the implementation of the D600's video mode compared to the D800 is that you can't adjust aperture during movie recording on the new model (unless you use an older manual focus lens with a mechanical aperture ring).
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OK, that confirms that the D600 is essentially a full-frame upgrade of the D7000, sharing a similar pixel-pitch, the same inability to alter aperture in Live View, and lacking a real-time histogram. While the D600 does feature broader video functionality, those features are available on the D5100 as well (except for 50/60p video modes). One feature I find highly useful, a fold-out LCD screen, is available only on the D5100. On cameras without a fold-out LCD, you're forced to either mount the camera directly in front of your eyes, or attach a separate video monitor.

In terms of price, the D5100 is available for $550, while the D600 is listed at $2100. Both cameras feature 14-bit RAW stills and comparable dynamic range. What the D5100 lacks are an in-body focus motor, dual SD card slots, HDMI recording, audio monitor jack, auto-focus fine tuning, and custom gamma profiles. If you're looking for a still/video hybrid, can work without these pro features, and don't need a full-frame camera, the D5100 looks like a real bargain. What I'd really like, however, would be a D500 full-frame upgrade...
 
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lpowell said:
Here's the word from DPReview on the D600:



OK, that confirms that the D600 is essentially a full-frame upgrade of the D7000, sharing a similar pixel-pitch, the same inability to alter aperture in Live View, and lacking a real-time histogram. While the D600 does feature broader video functionality, those features are available on the D5100 as well (except for 50/60p video modes). One feature I find highly useful, a fold-out LCD screen, is available only on the D5100. On cameras without a fold-out LCD, you're forced to either mount the camera directly in front of your eyes, or attach a separate video monitor.

In terms of price, the D5100 is available for $550, while the D600 is listed at $2100. Both cameras feature 14-bit RAW stills and comparable dynamic range. What the D5100 lacks are an in-body focus motor, auto-focus fine tuning, and custom gamma profiles. If you're looking for a still/video hybrid, can work without these pro features, and don't need a full-frame camera, the D5100 looks like a real bargain. What I'd really like, however, would be a D500 full-frame upgrade...
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Yes, sure looks like the D600 has the same video controls as the D7000. I have shot paid work with the D7000, and it is absolutely doable but I had really thought Nikon had left these control limitations behind.

The confusing part of the Dpreview quote to me is that they refer to not being able to change aperture during movie recording, which is not something I normally do anyway since the exposure jumps will be very jarring. So that I can easily live with.

However not being able to change it while in live view, and having to exit and enter live view to change it every time, is a pain. And I guess that is the what dpreview is actually refering to. There are workarounds on the D7000 such as changing the aperture while in live view, then taking a picture to force the live view to reflect the new aperture value (and take a look at the histogram of that picture to judge exposure at the same time).

But I am sick of workarounds, and at $2000 it should not be needed.
 
dfreerider said:
Yes, sure looks like the D600 has the same video controls as the D7000. I have shot professional jobs with the D7000, and it is absolutely doable but I had really thought Nikon had left these control limitations behind.

The confusing part of the Dpreview quote to me is that they refer to not being able to change aperture during movie recording, which is not something I normally do anyway since the exposure jumps will be very jarring. So that I can easily live with.

However not being able to change it while in live view, and having to exit and enter live view to change it every time, is a pain. And I guess that is the what dpreview is actually refering to. There are workarounds on the D7000 such as changing the aperture while in live view, then taking a picture to force the live view to reflect the new aperture value (and take a look at the histogram of that picture to judge exposure at the same time).

But I am sick of workarounds, and at $2000 it should not be needed.
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Do you need to exit live view with the D800?
 
Exciting times. I will not make buying decisions based on vimeo or youtube, nor will I listen to all those unboxing video pros of the bloom department. I go to the shop with my card, record and go home to see the difference. Sometimes rental places have the stuff very early too and thats my preferred place to make decisions.
 
The making of video is now also available for download on vimeo http://vimeo.com/49443048

Something seems off to me about the making of video after downloading the 1080p version. There is a lot more aliasing, even on scenes that have no aliasing on the original video. Even the text at the beginning has aliasing issues. Looks to me like they made a mistake when encoding it, but I am no expert.
 
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Yes seen that too, I was thinking if they did not try some shot in 720p or even DX. The d800 does have these problem in DX and 720p. So perhaps they were still learning the camera etc as it was pre-production. Perhaps should tell them on the vimeo page.
 
It seems the file was interlaced at some point and was deinterlaced, therefore loosing half of the resolution vertically. FCp magic?
 
We've established that the D600 won't allow aperture changes while recording, but are we certain that it doesn't allow them in live view mode (while not recording) either? That would be a serious drawback indeed.
 
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