Could someone please tell me how my film lost to this one...Please!

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Richard J. Johnson said:
I don't know about your state but here we have Liberty Tax service where people dress in those exact costumes and wave at cars as they go by holding a sign as advertisements to get their taxes done there. There was a discussion on the citypaper forum about how no one notices those lost souls that wave at cars as they go by.
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Oh, we've got them out here. They just look less homeless, since they typically wear business attire.
 
Well, I actually find the winning piece to be more memorable than The Charl(y)ie Factor.

At least it's different.

I didn't really connect to anything in The Charl(y)ie Factor, which just seemed to be an experiment in style.
 
I guess you'll have to count it as a vegetable and move on. Unfortunately there are nearly as many "Film" festivals and contests as there are "film" makers.

What does everyone expect, its kind of like the AYSO of entertainment...

Remember, there has never been a statue erected in honor of a critic. Their pick of the winner says more about them than your producing ability.
 
sorry, Richard. i'm right there with agcohn. i understand being disappointed, i'm sure you put a lot of work into your short. ok, so the winning piece isn't your thing. and it showed no where near the technical proficiency that yours did. but it did actually demonstrate certain principles that are fundamental to the craft. (Tarkovsky, anyone?) it's a vastly different aesthetic to yours... don't mean there's nothing there.
 
Can someone tell me why then that this film won? Can anyone explain in any detail of criticism why one feels this deserved to win? Other than calling it art of course.
Why is the judging so blind and hidden? Who judged and why?
To keep everything transparent and hidden and unapproachable is, what?
"This one won, piss off!"

But seriously, enlighten me. So far the opinion is this is an abomination of anything resembling a film and even an artistic statement. I agree although that's still my opinion. It's nothing. If that's what makes it great then hey, I've got the head if you've got the bullet. Let's do it.
On second though, give me the gun ;)
 
yeah, that was pretty bad. I wouldn't let it get ya down though. Having been involved in several 48hrFP's. myself and MANY other contestants have always been scratching our heads come award time. I would never say I deserved to win any of those debacles outright, but I've always had a sense they were politically rigged in some way or another. I've seen pretty good shorts not even get acknowledgement, and a guy who spits up blood for ONE SHOT in a complete crapfest get a special effect award...

I would ask (demand) the judges to give a detailed breakdown of their thoughts on each film. Which should be done anyway IMO.

I watched a few of the other entries, and If i didn't know any better, I'd say the Hipster pukes from hipsturbia were the judges! (did they even move the camera in that one?)
 
Gord.T said:
Why is the judging so blind and hidden? Who judged and why?
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Check out Richard's link in the 6th post of this thread. It says that one of the judges was a "filmmaker/video artist and MICA [art college] instructor".

Now I can see the "video artist" judge choosing the "artsy" video to win, but the programming director and the critic? Hmm...

Please enlighten me people, WTF is a "video artist" (besides the literal, obvious meaning)?

(BTW, I like art films, so not bashing them)
 
MPB said:
. but it did actually demonstrate certain principles that are fundamental to the craft. (Tarkovsky, anyone?)
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No frickin' way, man!...Like someone mentioned previously, it was news b-roll, set to music. Nothing going on...I've only seen Tarkovsky's Solaris but that had, like, a story, with things that happened, even if the pace was slow.
 
MPB said:
sorry, Richard. i'm right there with agcohn. i understand being disappointed, i'm sure you put a lot of work into your short. ok, so the winning piece isn't your thing. and it showed no where near the technical proficiency that yours did. but it did actually demonstrate certain principles that are fundamental to the craft. (Tarkovsky, anyone?) it's a vastly different aesthetic to yours... don't mean there's nothing there.
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comparing an artistic expression on the level of a 4th grader to Andrei Tarkovsky is reprehensible. haha! :)
 
Wow. I normally don't post on matters like this, but I am shocked at how terrible everyone is being right now. You didn't win. Sure, it sucks. But things like this happen. You move on with life. The judges saw something in the winning film and deemed it a winner.

I feel terrible for the guy that shot the winning piece. He probably felt great when he won. Imagine if that was your film. You won. You're excited. You feel accomplished and worthwhile. And suddenly random people start bashing you technically, conceptually, literally on all stages. They tear you down to nothing. And it's junior high all over again.

He is a person just like you and I. And sometimes people forget that on the internet. What shocks me even more is that the moderators are letting this go on. What happened to a community of respect and not bashing others? Was there a rule change?

You lost, the stars didn't align on your film. It happens. You move on and you don't take it personally. But come on people, grow up please. Think of the other filmmaker here who did, in fact, win. And stop acting like junior high bullies.
 
BLahey said:
I'd say the Hipster pukes from hipsturbia were the judges!
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Aaaaahhahahahahahaha, too funny. :Drogar-Kriz(DBG)::Drogar-Kriz(DBG)::Drogar-Kriz(DBG):

Hey, at least in our contest here, ROM won, proving that there is some bit of order in the Universe.

Richard, as for your neck of the woods, my condolences.
 
Mattykins said:
You lost, the stars didn't align on your film. It happens. You move on and you don't take it personally. But come on people, grow up please. Think of the other filmmaker here who did, in fact, win. And stop acting like junior high bullies.
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I would agree generally, but if the winning film wasn't so shockingly inept and pointless I don't think this would be happening. We're all mystified more than anything, and would be even if Richard wasn't involved.
 
I see where you're coming from, but this thread to me is 100 times more interesting than a youtube link.

And I'm glad to see some members rallying support for a fellow 'user. And I value all opinions on the subject. Pro or con.

Mattykins said:
Wow. I normally don't post on matters like this, but I am shocked at how terrible everyone is being right now. You didn't win. Sure, it sucks. But things like this happen. You move on with life. The judges saw something in the winning film and deemed it a winner.

I feel terrible for the guy that shot the winning piece. He probably felt great when he won. Imagine if that was your film. You won. You're excited. You feel accomplished and worthwhile. And suddenly random people start bashing you technically, conceptually, literally on all stages. They tear you down to nothing. And it's junior high all over again.

He is a person just like you and I. And sometimes people forget that on the internet. What shocks me even more is that the moderators are letting this go on. What happened to a community of respect and not bashing others? Was there a rule change?

You lost, the stars didn't align on your film. It happens. You move on and you don't take it personally. But come on people, grow up please. Think of the other filmmaker here who did, in fact, win. And stop acting like junior high bullies.
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Wait, hold on.....Gary Coleman died?
 
That's fine to support a fellow dvxuser. But I think everyone is being way too harsh and I feel as a line has been crossed. Clearly no one else feels the same. My post is less about the fact he lost and more about the fact that seemingly everyone is acting so horrible.

It actually saddens me. But I have nothing left to say on the matter.
 
Not everyone feels the same way, Mattykins. I'm with you on this one. It's one thing to say "I don't understand why mine didn't win", it's quite another thing for this community to go swamp a newspaper's site posting rants to that effect.

This has turned ugly, and what should be said has been said, and as you said, we're not in for bashing one another.

Nothing more to see here. Move along.
 
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