Eric Coughlin
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Well when I was a kid I'd considered becoming an airline pilot.
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NorBro
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A lot of video freelancers have always explored YouTube on the side. Setting up a studio and producing content in their bedroom/living room (reviews, software tutorials, filming their train/plane sets, ASMR, showing a baseball card collection, other hobbies, etc).
You barely make nickels and dimes in the beginning, but maybe could be a way to get your mind off things for a bit while still working in video production.
[Of course there's also the option of just getting another job, anything you can, as previously noted here.]
You barely make nickels and dimes in the beginning, but maybe could be a way to get your mind off things for a bit while still working in video production.
[Of course there's also the option of just getting another job, anything you can, as previously noted here.]
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It's never easy to express unpopular opinions and that's how you get lemming behavior. My post was misinterpreted to mean I want to abandon old and sick people to their fate for "the almighty dollar". The very opposite is true. I advocate social distancing and isolation for the older, folks with conditions, ill, and the vulnerable. But in order for that to be successful you need at least a semi-functioning economy. If everybody isolates, how do you think things get made? It's easy to hunker down - but money does not grow on trees and manufactured goods don't fall from the sky. All I'm saying is that in order to support the vulnerable you can't have the economy in pieces.
And in order for the economy to function, those of us who are less vulnerable (at least at the moment)- under 60 in good health - have to make a sacrifice. We have to go to work, otherwise there will be no means with which to support those who can't. It may mean that some of us "healthy now" might get sick or worse (perhaps me). But I'm willing to make that sacrifice or take that risk so that the whole house of cards doesn't collapse. We sent young men to war during WWII knowing full well that they may not come back. If we're serious about this being an emergency, perhaps it's not too much to ask those who can to volunteer (I am willing). Understand, that those hospitals we're all worried about are part of a web of dependencies. For example, we outsource almost 100% of our generic medication production to China and India - if you disrupt the supply chains, you must start producing at home... and who is setting that up if everyone is hunkered down at home? Not everything can be done by work from home. All these interdependecies mean that you cannot predict how collapsed production in one sector might affect a completely different sector much further down the chain.
If we succumb to panic, and destroy the economy, the old and vulnerable will be the first to feel the fallout. Lives will be lost too. It's not about "money". It's about a functioning civilization.
We have to be rational here and let cooler heads prevail - let's handle the risks, let's not amplify the chain reactions of economic destruction, which results in a massive threat to the weakest. Let's take precautions, and those who can let's get back to work, so that we don't have a collapse with far reaching consequences.
And in order for the economy to function, those of us who are less vulnerable (at least at the moment)- under 60 in good health - have to make a sacrifice. We have to go to work, otherwise there will be no means with which to support those who can't. It may mean that some of us "healthy now" might get sick or worse (perhaps me). But I'm willing to make that sacrifice or take that risk so that the whole house of cards doesn't collapse. We sent young men to war during WWII knowing full well that they may not come back. If we're serious about this being an emergency, perhaps it's not too much to ask those who can to volunteer (I am willing). Understand, that those hospitals we're all worried about are part of a web of dependencies. For example, we outsource almost 100% of our generic medication production to China and India - if you disrupt the supply chains, you must start producing at home... and who is setting that up if everyone is hunkered down at home? Not everything can be done by work from home. All these interdependecies mean that you cannot predict how collapsed production in one sector might affect a completely different sector much further down the chain.
If we succumb to panic, and destroy the economy, the old and vulnerable will be the first to feel the fallout. Lives will be lost too. It's not about "money". It's about a functioning civilization.
We have to be rational here and let cooler heads prevail - let's handle the risks, let's not amplify the chain reactions of economic destruction, which results in a massive threat to the weakest. Let's take precautions, and those who can let's get back to work, so that we don't have a collapse with far reaching consequences.
Cary Knoop
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I think that this virus is very likely not going away, it may be dormant at times, perhaps it is seasonal, we just don't know at this point, but it here to stay in the world. So the implication is that every person, over time, will get in contact with this virus. That is an important factor in strategizing what to do.
Doing nothing will create a logistical disaster in our hospitals, so that's no good. But going total lockdown is not going to work, first of all, the whole world would have to do that in-sync, and second, we need food and essential services.
So the answer, I think, is somewhat in-between, some way to slow down the rate of infection and hope for a vaccine and increasing herd immunity.
I am currently in a shelter-in-place region and I think shelter-in-place is as far as we should go, going beyond this level would be counterproductive.
The only way, in the long term, to deal with this is herd immunity and a vaccine.
And please folks this "only old people get it" narrative is simply not correct, while the mortality rates for older people are much higher there are increasing reports in Italy and Spain that young folks get it as well, just later and to the point they need hospitalization and ICU as well.
Doing nothing will create a logistical disaster in our hospitals, so that's no good. But going total lockdown is not going to work, first of all, the whole world would have to do that in-sync, and second, we need food and essential services.
So the answer, I think, is somewhat in-between, some way to slow down the rate of infection and hope for a vaccine and increasing herd immunity.
I am currently in a shelter-in-place region and I think shelter-in-place is as far as we should go, going beyond this level would be counterproductive.
The only way, in the long term, to deal with this is herd immunity and a vaccine.
And please folks this "only old people get it" narrative is simply not correct, while the mortality rates for older people are much higher there are increasing reports in Italy and Spain that young folks get it as well, just later and to the point they need hospitalization and ICU as well.
A great laboratory for human behavior and the virus' behavior is Miami Beach. Spring break has brought the young crowd in droves with the retired people having to deal with it. Here's a notable quote showing how some view the situation.
From Business Insider - "Over the weekend, local Florida officials implemented new restrictions in the area to help curb the spread of coronavirus. There are currently 155 known infected cases in the state. Measures taken locally include shutting down South Beach (the popular part of Miami Beach), implementing an 11 p.m. curfew, and limiting crowds to 250 people. "It's extremely upsetting because most students only get one spring break," 21-year-old Gabby Porter, who was in Miami for spring break, told Business Insider of the restrictions."
Can you imagine the tragedy of only one spring break and then to have it disrupted? How will they cope? Will this nightmare ever end? Soldier on youth .... Soldier on.
From Business Insider - "Over the weekend, local Florida officials implemented new restrictions in the area to help curb the spread of coronavirus. There are currently 155 known infected cases in the state. Measures taken locally include shutting down South Beach (the popular part of Miami Beach), implementing an 11 p.m. curfew, and limiting crowds to 250 people. "It's extremely upsetting because most students only get one spring break," 21-year-old Gabby Porter, who was in Miami for spring break, told Business Insider of the restrictions."
Can you imagine the tragedy of only one spring break and then to have it disrupted? How will they cope? Will this nightmare ever end? Soldier on youth .... Soldier on.
Cary Knoop
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We are really getting to know some of our fellow forum members in these trying times...........!
NorBro
Major Contributor
Cary, I know how you feel about people relating the virus to the older generation. You mentioned it 2348848921 times already.
Focus...
If you think you're really getting to know your fellow members in these trying times then you'd know I never once linked the two together. Actually, if you really knew me as a person you'd know how I'm a firm believer that anyone can die at anytime from anything.
In general, I think any weak immune system will have a problem. Ages 1-100.
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My comment was a little facetious about a lot of younger people wanting to party and having a different mindset.
Supposedly NYC's biggest complaints to the Governor’s office are that bars are closed. Anecdotal, but straight from the Governor's mouth.
EDIT: Look up the video on YouTube if interested.
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NorBro
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Definitely just a comment about the difference in brain development/understanding/expectations. (And thank you.)
On the other hand, I also don't want to cluster every young person into that generalization because there are many that are devastated by this and that they can't go back to school, or finish school for that matter, and want to do anything they can to help and protect, and don't care about their spring break.
P.S. I don't know anymore what's considered politics, so obviously feel free to delete that part of the post above if it is, but just wanted to share how ridiculous it is that most complaining in NYC is about bars being closed.
On the other hand, I also don't want to cluster every young person into that generalization because there are many that are devastated by this and that they can't go back to school, or finish school for that matter, and want to do anything they can to help and protect, and don't care about their spring break.
P.S. I don't know anymore what's considered politics, so obviously feel free to delete that part of the post above if it is, but just wanted to share how ridiculous it is that most complaining in NYC is about bars being closed.
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Interesting times. Starting thurs and especially friday onward the people have been mass shopping here. They aren't violent and frantic but the shelves on many aisles are empty. People are trying to stockpile. The stores relocated most of their staff to grocery in order to stock as fast as possible but the people buy most of it about as fast as it can be stocked.
The people's reaction to a problem can create a much bigger problem than the original problem. As I witnessed this I considered how quickly massive panic, violence, theft, raiding and murder would erupt if a more potent virus or threat happened.
Factories can increase production on many goods in relatively short time, but if the people continue to hoard at the current (or increased) level for a long period of time you can't quickly grow more food. I remembered several years ago when the govt suggested people buy plastic sheeting and duct tape due to the "threat" and how the people mass shopped it. Factories ran extra shifts and soon the stores had loads of such coming in. Once the "threat" was over it took several years to sell through the bulk stock.
I spoke with a walmart store mgr I know and he shared that each day sales were up over $150k above normal. Sales were over $2.4M for the week which is significant. I wonder how people will fare at the end of the month and the coming weeks after spending more than they usually do during the first half of the month.
Production work is slowing down for me. Got one inquiry for a wedding yesterday (but it may be a fraud).
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1. What do you guys think will occur in the gear world? Usually around this time of year people are anxiously looking to buy new gear but now many of us are considering selling our assets in order to raise money to survive. Will manufacturers slash prices in order to try to boost some sales?
I ordered a workstation a month and a half ago and it arrives in a few days. Had I known this was going to happen I would have held off.
2. We all know the production market went largely down the toilet about 10 years ago when gear got cheap and loads of kids living at home started doing video. Could this present problem end up helping the video production field once it's over as the players will have thinned out? Or will it make it even worse as people are desperately trying to recover and willing to work for even less, and clients wanting the cheapest work as possible?
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Just thought I'd prompt some thought sharing since we are all dealing with this to some degree whether we want to or not.
This too shall pass and in the meantime there are some things to be learned.
The people's reaction to a problem can create a much bigger problem than the original problem. As I witnessed this I considered how quickly massive panic, violence, theft, raiding and murder would erupt if a more potent virus or threat happened.
Factories can increase production on many goods in relatively short time, but if the people continue to hoard at the current (or increased) level for a long period of time you can't quickly grow more food. I remembered several years ago when the govt suggested people buy plastic sheeting and duct tape due to the "threat" and how the people mass shopped it. Factories ran extra shifts and soon the stores had loads of such coming in. Once the "threat" was over it took several years to sell through the bulk stock.
I spoke with a walmart store mgr I know and he shared that each day sales were up over $150k above normal. Sales were over $2.4M for the week which is significant. I wonder how people will fare at the end of the month and the coming weeks after spending more than they usually do during the first half of the month.
Production work is slowing down for me. Got one inquiry for a wedding yesterday (but it may be a fraud).
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1. What do you guys think will occur in the gear world? Usually around this time of year people are anxiously looking to buy new gear but now many of us are considering selling our assets in order to raise money to survive. Will manufacturers slash prices in order to try to boost some sales?
I ordered a workstation a month and a half ago and it arrives in a few days. Had I known this was going to happen I would have held off.
2. We all know the production market went largely down the toilet about 10 years ago when gear got cheap and loads of kids living at home started doing video. Could this present problem end up helping the video production field once it's over as the players will have thinned out? Or will it make it even worse as people are desperately trying to recover and willing to work for even less, and clients wanting the cheapest work as possible?
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Just thought I'd prompt some thought sharing since we are all dealing with this to some degree whether we want to or not.
This too shall pass and in the meantime there are some things to be learned.
puredrifting
Major Contributor
Those are just the amateurs who didn't stock up as well as learn how to reload and stock up on components during the great ammo shortage of 2013.
1. New gear announcements will be delayed. You don't want to make a product announcement when no one is listening or has any money. For sure, prices in the used market will be slashed as there will be more sellers than buyers. For new equipment, it depends on the vendor's financial position. If they have to generate cash, then they will slash prices to move product. Others will hold on to keep prices propped up, but may be dragged down by their competitors. The big 3 are not doing well anyway and can be propped up by the larger corporation. But then, why prop up a division that's been on the decline when the other divisions will be suffering as well? If this lasts a long time, it could be the death knell for some of the camera makers.
NorBro
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1. If products aren't moving, prices will lower...in any and all industries. (It's too early to tell what will happen.)
2. Again, too early to tell - but what something like this does is really put things into perspective. The way people view life and do business will change.
Unprecedented times in the modern digital information age. There were obviously many other pandemics and catastrophes, but they were not experienced in the same way when information was unable to be shared instantly worldwide.
2. Again, too early to tell - but what something like this does is really put things into perspective. The way people view life and do business will change.
Unprecedented times in the modern digital information age. There were obviously many other pandemics and catastrophes, but they were not experienced in the same way when information was unable to be shared instantly worldwide.
combatentropy
Veteran
Would you mind sharing some ideas for breakfast, lunch, and dinner? I need all the inspiration I can get.
I like food and dislike cooking, an expensive combination. I don't have kids, and my wife has weird tastes, so we often make separate things. So I'm often cooking for one, and it often seems like it's not much more to just run and grab something. But eating out adds up. I get tired of the same thing every day, so it's hard to do the really efficient things like make a week's worth of lasagne. On the other hand, I have simple tastes, so simple meals are fine, as long as I can do a variety.
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Stephen Mick
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Here are my favorites…
For breakfast, I often make a quiche on the weekend and have a slice each morning. Lasts about a week, and I can put whatever I want in it to change things up.
For lunch, I’ll have a sandwich on homemade bread, or I might make a batch of soup. (Just made a big recipe of split-pea soup.)
At dinner time, it depends on what the missus wants. It might be pasta with grilled chicken and homemade sauce. Or it could be stuffed pork chops.
I really like the Kitchen Stories app (their sun-dried tomato chicken recipe is great), and the Tasty app. Lots of good stuff there.
For breakfast, I often make a quiche on the weekend and have a slice each morning. Lasts about a week, and I can put whatever I want in it to change things up.
For lunch, I’ll have a sandwich on homemade bread, or I might make a batch of soup. (Just made a big recipe of split-pea soup.)
At dinner time, it depends on what the missus wants. It might be pasta with grilled chicken and homemade sauce. Or it could be stuffed pork chops.
I really like the Kitchen Stories app (their sun-dried tomato chicken recipe is great), and the Tasty app. Lots of good stuff there.
Not too early on oil prices. (they rebounded slightly today ... just a technical play)
As to gear, it depends on the class. The high end is purchased for long time ownership/use. The consumer tier is getting destroyed by the smartphones anyway, so that and Covid-19 will be used to write off a lot of inventory. And a lot of errors.
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