nyvz
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The announcements said the capability will come with the free May 2015 firmware update...
They aren't charging for it.
Here's what the announcement said:
Convergent Design NAB '15 Announcements
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The announcements said the capability will come with the free May 2015 firmware update...
They aren't charging for it.
Here's what the announcement said:
abreu-canedo
Well-known member
Ah, thanks!
dmitrizigany
Veteran
They will sell the handle things that you attatch to the hard drives to pull them out, that's what they said, I believe.
abreu-canedo
Well-known member
Handles. Ah, yes. I interpreted handles (for some dumb reason) as bits of code that would enable the SSDs to work...haha. Sorry for the unproductive question, and thanks for the clarifications!
Mitch Gross
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There is a difference between Warrantied and Qualified.
We make (or, via an OEM, have made to our specs) our own SSDs. They are our product and we warranty that they will work in all modes on the Odyssey7/7Q/7Q+ monitor/recorders. Should anything happen (it won't), we will jump through every hoop there is to recover your data. Clients have done some crazy things and we have rescued some unbelievable stuff that shouldn't have been recoverable, but we did it. Shane Hurlbut gives presentations where he shows a rather intense sequence from Need For Speed with a car plowing into another and into a hillside at ridiculously high speed. He shows a frame from one camera with the view of another camera mounted to the car getting completely destroyed. In the same shot one of our Gemini 4:4:4 monitor/recorders FLIES by, having been dislodged from that camera, but with it's green recording light still lit. We rescued that footage too.
The Samsung SSDs are Qualified by us. We don't make them and we don't sell them. Should anything happen (again, it won't), we will try our best to recover your data. Should we need to go to extreme measures that are time consuming there may be a fee involved, but we would discuss this with you first. But we can't warranty something that is not our product.
I don't want anyone to feel leery of using the Samsung 850 EVO 500GB & 1000GB SSDs. We would not have qualified them if we didn't believe in their performance. If you are a rental house, or a government agency, or have a large insurance completion bond, then you are likely going to use our warrantied SSDs, so we will continue to offer them. But if you are an independent camerasperson, or a documentary filmmaker, we can certainly appreciate your desire for more affordable media. Please, don't fear using the Samsung SSDs. They're very nice.
Mitch Gross
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Just to reiterate what others have said, Convergent Design will absolutely NOT be changing for access to use the Samsung SSDs. We will be selling the plastic handles with the locking mechanism so that the SSDs can be properly inserted/removed from the Odyssey and held firmly in place while in use. We have not set a price but it will be modest, really just enough to cover costs involved. We'll likely sell them in a six pack along with the matching screws and some adhesive for properly mounting them. Details TBD.
The other way would be kinda rude, no? You can use these inexpensive SSDs, just pay us money for the ability! That's not us.
Cyril-from-France
Member
You know what ? We have the same expression in french. ... Yes I know ... that's amazing.
Great! Let me guess: Disabling the 6GB/12GB SLC Turbo Write cache that's in the 500GB/1000GB 850 EVOs for uniform write speed directly to TLC NAND? Or something else?
And if something else: Any change in Power Down/Power Up procedure/time or Record Stop to Power Down time when using 850 EVOs? (for SLC Cache to empty to TLC NAND)
Mitch Gross
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Honestly I don't know all the machinations the engineers have to go through, and neigther do they until they do them. There will be changes to our own code and I do not know if there will be any changes to the SSD command code. An SSD is much more than an empty bucket into which one pours data. We test and test in every possible mode on the Odyssey to make sure we are performing operations in the best possible way with our recording media. Again, it is not a question of something being better or worse, just optimized for the particular combination. There is so much here that you don't know about, real nitty-gritty details.
Thanks Mitch. You are right. Lots of stuff I don't know, and that I probably don't want to know either. I do very much appreciate knowing that you are optimizing the code for writing to the 850 EVOs. They are such a different beast than you other SSDs, so getting that info out there is good to establish trust, IMHO.
stefanhuberfilms
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Mitch, any news when/if Timelapse will be coming? Is that still on the table?
Mitch Gross
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Still on the table but it's in the mix of a lot of other things. It is NOT backburnered. I have seen it mixed in with a group of other functions, so as those functions get tackled, so will this. Not gonna be more specific because honestly can't.
Taycuphach
Member
Hi Mitch,
Any program for first adopter buying Sony Raw recording license now want to convert to bundle license ?
Thanks,
Cuong
Mitch Gross
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Yes, we'll announce the plan on Monday. Had to get the details sorted and the website prepped.
The whole Odyssey RAW Bundle was a last minute decision so we didn't have a chance to work out all the steps before NAB. We knew it would be a big question for our current clients but we didn't want to delay it.
Taycuphach
Member
Thanks Mitch.
I love how CD is treating your current client and your approach to supporting them.
It is my most correct decision to invest to CD product 1 year ago
Zak Forsman
Major Contributor
New Odyssey 7Q+ owner here. Picked one up from Illya at Hot Rod Cameras. On Twitter, CD posted a photo from NAB that showed anamorphic desqueeze on one of their display units. any idea where that functionality might fall in the coming release schedule?
Mitch Gross
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Coming in the next release!!
rheinturmblau
Well-known member
Also released on Monday?
End of April is approaching fast..
End of April is approaching fast..
Mitch Gross
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Gents,
A head's up here: Looks like our April firmware update may slip a few days into May. We're racing to complete testing and the final tweaks are getting done, but we have to be sure that everything included works properly. There are a number of changes in this update, mostly having to do with monitoring functions. But it is a lot of stuff that is really useful to many people, in fact I should think that everyone can find something of interest in this release no matter what camera(s) you use in conjunction with your Odyssey.
Very, very soon. Working hard.
A head's up here: Looks like our April firmware update may slip a few days into May. We're racing to complete testing and the final tweaks are getting done, but we have to be sure that everything included works properly. There are a number of changes in this update, mostly having to do with monitoring functions. But it is a lot of stuff that is really useful to many people, in fact I should think that everyone can find something of interest in this release no matter what camera(s) you use in conjunction with your Odyssey.
Very, very soon. Working hard.
How is the bug fixes coming along? Is there any important bugs treatet in the next firmware?
Right now the Odyssey is pretty useless for me, with the ugly skincolors...