Well I'm in North Florida (Jacksonville), but I would be more than happy to test out your filter as I'm a fan of anamorphic. It looks very interesting, especially after watching some of the videos on vimeo that the filter was used for - very nice.
Cinemorph Anamorphic-ish Filter
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Well I'm in North Florida (Jacksonville), but I would be more than happy to test out your filter as I'm a fan of anamorphic. It looks very interesting, especially after watching some of the videos on vimeo that the filter was used for - very nice.
Gabel
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Haha, well very true. That's really the grey area, where it isn't OUT of the line, but might vingette sligthly.
OK, so in your opinion, it WILL vignette (slightly or not)
Can the developer comment on this ?
Gabel
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Well I don't have one as a reference, but I did the math, based on their statement that they got slight vingette with a 55 on a 5D (and 35 equals 56 on a 7D), but I can't give a straight answer I'm afraid. Will it vingette? I don't know, but it COULD vingette. We are talking about what I would say could be the shortest "safest" focal lenght.
vidatlantic
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Yes, using a 35mm on a t2i or any aps-c sized sensor will vignette. The safest focal length for a crop frame sensor right now is 50mm.
OK Thanks.
So, if we want wider then 50mm, we are to wait for the 4x4 (if there's enough demand for it), yes ?
Jean Dantes
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If I used a Canon 50mm f1.8 with the Cinemorph anamorphic filter, how many stops of light will I lose - f2.8?
Ian-T
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vidatlantic
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Sorry for the delay here...been a bit busy on a few projects and around the shop. Yes, using am f1.8 lens like that will pretty much turn it into an f2.8.
vidatlantic
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Yes that is correct. The interest in this filter has been pretty good and we got a lot of good reviews especially from the music video masters out there, but not a ton of demand yet for anything out side of our current version. And we havent had a lot of time to develop the 4x4 version as we had planned. More to come...
Contact_Therapy
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Any updates to the current model being rolled out anytime soon?
Also, has anyone tried the 72mm model on a 52mm lens? Is using the 58mm model as far as you should push it for 52mm lenses?
Also, has anyone tried the 72mm model on a 52mm lens? Is using the 58mm model as far as you should push it for 52mm lenses?
mark.futurework
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I have just recently bought one of these cinemorph filters. I have the 67mm filter with a step down ring to 62mm. I am experiencing some vignetting. Also im looking at every else footage and there flares go horizontally across the screen whereas mine go vertically. And when i turn the cinemorph so the flares do go horizontally there is even more vignetting as the oval shape of the filter is vertical to the lens.
I have a 30mm sigma lens on a canon 600d...the lens has pretty good bokeh anyway...im thinking of carefully making the oval shape wider so there is no vignetting?
Can someone please help me with this...any thoughts, comments please please please
Thank you
Mark
I have a 30mm sigma lens on a canon 600d...the lens has pretty good bokeh anyway...im thinking of carefully making the oval shape wider so there is no vignetting?
Can someone please help me with this...any thoughts, comments please please please
Thank you
Mark
vidatlantic
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I have just recently bought one of these cinemorph filters. I have the 67mm filter with a step down ring to 62mm. I am experiencing some vignetting. Also im looking at every else footage and there flares go horizontally across the screen whereas mine go vertically. And when i turn the cinemorph so the flares do go horizontally there is even more vignetting as the oval shape of the filter is vertical to the lens.
I have a 30mm sigma lens on a canon 600d...the lens has pretty good bokeh anyway...im thinking of carefully making the oval shape wider so there is no vignetting?
Can someone please help me with this...any thoughts, comments please please please
Thank you
Mark
Hi Mark,
We'll get a 62mm filter out to you just send the 67mm back to us. This may help a bit. You may in the end just need tighter focal lengths, because it's necessary to have the filter be positioned vertically if you want horizontal flares.
Some people (including us!) have been shooting with filter positioned sideways or horizontal to get a more unique look as well as accomodate slightly wider focal lenghts. I love taking still images with shallow depth of field and filter positioned horizontal. It gives the bokeh a sideways smeared or painted look. Its definitely a different look.
EDIT: Forgot to mention, I wouldnt try making the shaper larger by hand. We have this part specially machined and its cut with computer precision. If done by hand, the flaws can show up in the bokeh very easily. Every little crooked cut or shape gets magnified in the bokeh especially at night when filming lights.
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vidatlantic
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Still working on it, no major developments yet as we've been pretty busy with a few productions, projects and the current filter. We able to make a simple flair or streak filter for wider focal lengths, thats not a problem but also be able to shape and morph the bokeh on wider lenses is not so easy.
vidatlantic
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You can use a 72mm filter on the smaller lenses with step rings, it wont be a big deal but what happens is the oval bokeh wont be so oval. It will still be vertically stretched and morphed but the top and bottom roundness could be missed since the 72mm shape is machined slightly large to accomodate larger lens front elements. You can see in this video that the bokeh isnt round nor is it perfectly oval but it is vertically stretched http://vimeo.com/19796520 So the results would be similar to that.
Where as if the filter is better matched to the front size of the SLR lens, the bokeh would have a nice oval shape as seen in this video http://vimeo.com/19232998
mark.futurework
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Hey man thanks for the reply, I have posted the 67mm filter back to you. looking forward to receiving the 62mm.
Thanks again
Mark
Thanks again
Mark
Is this basically a star filter with a oval shape cut out infront of it for the bokeh?
I'm hoping to buy one of these eventually but funds are low so I was hoping to make a similar thing myself just to use until i can afford the well made version.
I have the means to machine the piece for the bokeh and a 2 star filter do you think it would work?
Also can anyone think of any way to achieve the blue flares without blue gels over the lights? I know some companies do it by inserting blue lines into the filter.
Many thanks
Matt
I'm hoping to buy one of these eventually but funds are low so I was hoping to make a similar thing myself just to use until i can afford the well made version.
I have the means to machine the piece for the bokeh and a 2 star filter do you think it would work?
Also can anyone think of any way to achieve the blue flares without blue gels over the lights? I know some companies do it by inserting blue lines into the filter.
Many thanks
Matt
vidatlantic
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Essentianlly, yes the inner elements of the CineMorph have both an oval bokeh shaper (specially machined as every little imperfection shows up in the image bokeh if not cut properly) and a streak/flare element, all on a rotating filter frame so that you can align the shape and streak after mounting the filter to your lens.
It also has front threads so that you can mount ND, Fader and other filters or accessories.
We've been working with many big directors and DPs in the music video and film industry with this filter for awhile now. They've come to us because they dont want fishing line with rubber bands, or cutting cinefoil with exacto knives or any of the other DIY methods that dont allow you to focus your lenses properly or use other essential accessories. Some of those methods would look very unprofessional on the set of a shoot for a paying client or if you're filming Rihanna or Britney's video.
We think at $139 right now, its a fair price, especially when other streak filters start at $300 and go way up.
We'll also have a streak filter (possibly with colored streaks) coming soon on our site. It will not have the oval anamorphic element.
There are plenty of people who can make a DIY Zacuto Z-Finder out of a diopter and a cup, but in the end most people would prefer a professionally machined and assembled unit while on set or in front of clients. Rubber bands and fishing lines can look a bit silly, and we have yet to see how you can rack or pull focus on your lens while using some of those methods.
It also has front threads so that you can mount ND, Fader and other filters or accessories.
We've been working with many big directors and DPs in the music video and film industry with this filter for awhile now. They've come to us because they dont want fishing line with rubber bands, or cutting cinefoil with exacto knives or any of the other DIY methods that dont allow you to focus your lenses properly or use other essential accessories. Some of those methods would look very unprofessional on the set of a shoot for a paying client or if you're filming Rihanna or Britney's video.
We think at $139 right now, its a fair price, especially when other streak filters start at $300 and go way up.
We'll also have a streak filter (possibly with colored streaks) coming soon on our site. It will not have the oval anamorphic element.
There are plenty of people who can make a DIY Zacuto Z-Finder out of a diopter and a cup, but in the end most people would prefer a professionally machined and assembled unit while on set or in front of clients. Rubber bands and fishing lines can look a bit silly, and we have yet to see how you can rack or pull focus on your lens while using some of those methods.
