GH4 Cinelike D vs V log on the GH4 - Thoughts?

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Michael Nash

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Is V log really worth all the hype? I hate monitoring such flat video, and from the tests I see theres usually not any vast improvement after applying a lut - maybe a small increase in Dynamic Range, but in some cases I actually preferred the Cinelike D shots.
Maybe it would work in the future if I was able to afford an EVF that would let me monitor with a LUT, but right now, I think I prefer the simpler workflow of Cinelike D.
Is it just me or does it seem like a lot more work for not much of an improvement?
What do you guys think.
 
Michael Nash said:
Is V log really worth all the hype? I hate monitoring such flat video, and from the tests I see theres usually not any vast improvement after applying a lut - maybe a small increase in Dynamic Range, but in some cases I actually preferred the Cinelike D shots.
Maybe it would work in the future if I was able to afford an EVF that would let me monitor with a LUT, but right now, I think I prefer the simpler workflow of Cinelike D.
Is it just me or does it seem like a lot more work for not much of an improvement?
What do you guys think.
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I think you answered this for yourself.



Welcome to the forums.
 
Cinelike D, but then I may be rather biased ;)

But seriously, all my testing in A-B comparisons etc has shown that Cinelike D with the right settings gives every bit as much dynamic range as V-Log L, but without any of the issues.

HTH!

Cheers from Berlin,

Paul :)
 
I did not like Vlog at all. Looked terrible to me. For what I do (lowlight events) Cinelike D works great. Less noise. For well lit and daylight scenes Vlog might work for others. To me it just seems like a huge gimmick. Glad I didn't spend months anticipating it and arguing about it like I saw others do. Would have been a huge letdown.
 
VlogL had no better range to me than CineD. I'll probably never use it since I dont have a 10-bit recorder.

The only GREAT reviews I have ever read about VLogL, were from pro graders that say it matched other logs well, and thus was much easier to grade. Well, that makes sense.


...now, had they made a simmple S-Curve adjustment, like CINESTYLE, instead of slamming it all into the middle, that would be amazing for both dark details AND saved highlights.
 
TheDingo said:
I felt the same way until the Cine-D LUTs started showing up, which fixed most of the issues I was having with Cine-D.
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Fair enough. But if I'm using LUTs I'd rather start with V-Log. For me, the other profiles need to be good to go with just a little exposure balancing, which they are.
 
Sometimes i like the 'D', but most of the time i stick to the Natural, dialed down a bit. It always depends on your needs. My needs typically call for something that needs only minor work in post to look sparkly.
 
I was really happy with V-log because I was shooting a lot of outdoors adventure stuff and my footage looked great. Best looking gh4 footage I've ever shot and graded. I thought I had it dialed. Then I did this gig at the skate park, a lot of concrete with whites, beige and greys ... let me tell you I had a panic attack in the editing room.... I don't think I've ever done so many tracking masks to blur, paint, adjust in order to minimize that ugly chroma smearing..
lesson learned :)
 
visceralpsyche said:
Cinelike D, but then I may be rather biased ;)

But seriously, all my testing in A-B comparisons etc has shown that Cinelike D with the right settings gives every bit as much dynamic range as V-Log L, but without any of the issues.

HTH!

Cheers from Berlin,

Paul :)
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I read through the hefty forum on your Leeming LUT and I have to say, after all the corrections I am super impressed, sold and would love to buy it. How do I go about it?
 
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