Cine style zooms for AF100

Also, I just received my 9.5-57mm zoom today and it is looking like my original plan is not likely to work. The lens extends a full 26mm back from the front of its Arri-B (bayonet) mount and while Arri-B or PL mounts have a nice long 52mm FFD and would work fine on a direct m4/3->ARRI-B adapter since the 20mm FFD of M4/3 leaves 32mm of extra space for ARRI mounted lenses, it isnt likely to work on a EF->PL adapter with an EF teleconverter behind it. EF FFD is 44mm and ARRI B or PL are 52mm meaning there will only be 8mm of space between an ARRI and EF mount in any adapter, so unless the extender has 18mm of space between its elements and its front EF mount, my lens will hit it. Anyone know where I can get a 1.4x ARRI-B or PL extender? or if anyone is going to be making an m4/3 1.4x extender? Looks like these might be my only option, unless anyone knows of another intermediate mount that has a relatively short FFD and has readily available 1.4x or 1.5x extenders available on the market and can be adapted to an ARRI mount... Seems like adapters are available to ARRI from m4/3, Canon EF, and Sony E-Mount, with EF being the only one with extenders available but also being the only one of the three without a short enough FFD to fit my lens.
 
nyvz said:
... Anyone know where I can get a 1.4x ARRI-B or PL extender? or if anyone is going to be making an m4/3 1.4x extender?..
Click to expand...

Olympus have some four thirds teleconverters. My calculations suggest that you would require a 1.5x teleconverter to adapt Super 16 to M43. Your Angenieux is a standard 16mm lens though so you might well get a bit of vignetting, strictly speaking you would need something like a 1.8x multiplier. You could try the Olympus EC-14 (1.4x), or if you want to play it safe go for the EC-20 (2x). Both are supposed to be quite good optically.
 
taubkin said:
The duclos rehoused 11-16 seems like a lens to consider as well. I think a 11-16 duclos along a digioptics 18-50 (or a RED 17-50) could be a pretty nice combo.
Click to expand...

A duclos PL 11-16, and a RED PL 17-50 T2.9 is probably the best combo of zoom lenses around for an AF100.

Effective 18-85 zoom range (@ s35mm FOV) at a T2.8, in 2 small lenses prepped for cine style use. Plus in the future, they both cover 5k if you ever need to use anther camera a few years from now. This is the perfect field of view for 95% of your situations. perhaps an old old Lomo 85mm PL ( they go for like $300) for your long lens stuff.
 
I just picked up an actual cinema zoom, a Zeiss 22-154, for $1500. Haven't tested it on the camera yet because I had to order a lens support that will fit this monstrosity (it's huge, weighs 8 pounds). It's not a perfect cinema lens (only 3 aperture blades and no witness marks) but... at $1500, I mean... how far wrong can you go?
 
Hey was that Brian D. Goff's lens?

Barry_Green said:
I just picked up an actual cinema zoom, a Zeiss 22-154, for $1500. Haven't tested it on the camera yet because I had to order a lens support that will fit this monstrosity (it's huge, weighs 8 pounds). It's not a perfect cinema lens (only 3 aperture blades and no witness marks) but... at $1500, I mean... how far wrong can you go?
Click to expand...
 
Ebay auction. Nobody bid at all. Can't imagine why. I mean, it's not perfect, but ... dang, it's a T*-coated Zeiss vario-Sonnar PL-mount cine lens... I paid $4,000 for the Cooke 20-100 three years ago and sold it for $9,000+, and got this one for 1/6th of that.

They show up on ebay once in a while. Apparently there were only about 100 made?

Well, of course, I'm also speaking too soon -- as I haven't put it on the camera yet. Maybe it's sucktacular? I guess we'll see next week... :)
 
cool. I believe Brian wanted $3000 on Reduser. I think you got a great deal.

Barry_Green said:
Ebay auction. Nobody bid at all. Can't imagine why. I mean, it's not perfect, but ... dang, it's a T*-coated Zeiss vario-Sonnar PL-mount cine lens... I paid $4,000 for the Cooke 20-100 three years ago and sold it for $9,000+, and got this one for 1/6th of that.

They show up on ebay once in a while. Apparently there were only about 100 made?

Well, of course, I'm also speaking too soon -- as I haven't put it on the camera yet. Maybe it's sucktacular? I guess we'll see next week... :)
Click to expand...
 
J Davis said:
Your point is moot. What you are referring to is the use of a zoom as a variable prime. This can be done with still lenses. I do this all the time with a 17-55/2.8. Adjust the zoom instead of moving the tripod.
A zooming shot is what a still zoom cannot do. Buying a cine zoom to use as a variable prime just to save setup time is extravagant to say the least.
Click to expand...

I strongly disagree. Most stills lenses have extended housings when zooming and using a zoom as a variable prime to save time can be priceless given the right circumstances. Especially for documentary shooters. I have a set of ZF Zeiss primes and changing lenses is so time consuming (especially with matte box and carrying accessories bag) that I would get something like the 18-50 DigiOptimal in a heartbeat. Personally, I'm curious as to how the image quality stacks up to Zeiss glass.
 
Last edited:
Kindredmachine said:
I strongly disagree. Most stills lenses have extended housings when zooming and using a zoom as a variable prime to save time can be priceless given the right circumstances. Especially for documentary shooters. I have a set of ZF Zeiss primes and changing lenses is so time consuming (especially with matte box and carrying accessories bag) that I would get something like the 18-50 DigiOptimal in a heartbeat. Personally, I'm curious as to how the image quality stacks up to Zeiss glass.
Click to expand...

I use the DigiOPtic 18-50 & 50-150 as variable primes… Since most everything I shoot with the af ends up on the web, and isn't viewed by pixel peepers but real humans who don't care if the lens was a Zeiss - they are fantastic!

G.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top