Cheap/reliable suction cup mount?

Some people have used the suction handles used for bathtubs ( around $4-5 ), with a 1/4" bolt to hold the camera, and additional safety straps, in case the suction fails. But there are stronger suction handles:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?201616-DIY-Car-Suction-Mount

http://www.diyphotography.net/create-an-uber-cheap-car-rig-for-out-of-car-pov-photographs

http://www.instructables.com/id/Car-Dash-Camera-Mount/

I'm not sure if I'd hang my GH1 outside a car :)

thanks man the first and second link gave me what I need.
 
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