Canon vs Nikon

nothing said:
I just love how people pop in to complain about wandering from a thread topic, while at the same time taking the discussion further off topic. We are discussing cameras to use for documentary work - what are you contributing?
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1) This isn't in the documentary section. It's in the Canon FF section.
2) As an old Nikon shooter (pre-DSLR) and now a Canon shooter, I am interested in the OPs question...how do current Nikon and Canon cameras compare. 20+ posts into this thread and that question has yet to be addressed.
 
they (nikon dslr vs canon dslr) are pretty much the same, neither is ideal for doc unless its stationary targets and you're running 2 system audio
edit: or using the footage for b-roll
 
I think they are fairly comparable in the same price range (top vs top, mid vs mid). I would lean canon just because they dominate the video market so info on how to deal with their quirks is more readily available.
 
Dave © said:
1) This isn't in the documentary section. It's in the Canon FF section.
2) As an old Nikon shooter (pre-DSLR) and now a Canon shooter, I am interested in the OPs question...how do current Nikon and Canon cameras compare. 20+ posts into this thread and that question has yet to be addressed.
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You must not have really read the original post nor the rest of the thread very carefully. The OP specified for documentary use, and there are several posts (right from the beginning) addressing Canon vs Nikon.

Sorry that everbody here isn't catering to your specific needs or desires. Welcome to life.
 
I forget to mention in my first post that I chose the MKIII over the D800 after much internal debate. The aliasing and moire was the biggest issue for me after suffering the 5D MKII for 3 years. The low light performance was the second deciding factor. I've also been quite happy with Canon's colours and picture profiles although I really liked the colours on my D90. Philip Bloom demonstrated that the 720p 60p aliasing on the D800 is horrid which isn't an issue with the MKIII. The only thing the D800 has over the MKIII is a slightly sharper image but I'm quite happy with the MKIII image with a touch of post sharpening. Come April the MKIII will have uncompressed out which was the other selling point for the D800.

I mostly shoot narrative films but I have a couple of doco's on the drawboard and I wouldn't hesitate to shoot them with the MKIII. I've done plenty of one man run and gun with DSLRs and wouldn't go near a video camera for such work. Somebody mentioned the nightmarish menus and buttons on the FS700 which is one of the reasons I like DSLRs so much, they're so simple to operate I can focus on focus, exposure, coverage, performance, and sound, and not some stupid menu system designed for astronauts.
 
squig said:
The only thing the D800 has over the MKIII is a slightly sharper image but I'm quite happy with the MKIII image with a touch of post sharpening. Come April the MKIII will have uncompressed out which was the other selling point for the D800.

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And let's not forget that whatever software solutions Canon has arrived at in combination with an OLPF to curb aliasing and moire, will be set to the side when uncompressed becomes available to the 5D Mark III. Meaning it just might be sharper.
 
nothing said:
You must not have really read the original post nor the rest of the thread very carefully. The OP specified for documentary use, and there are several posts (right from the beginning) addressing Canon vs Nikon.

Sorry that everbody here isn't catering to your specific needs or desires. Welcome to life.
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nothing said:
I just love how people pop in to complain about wandering from a thread topic, while at the same time taking the discussion further off topic. We are discussing cameras to use for documentary work - what are you contributing?
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Weren't you the one who got the thread off topic in the first place? OP simply asked which brand of (assumably DSLRs) would be better for docu work without even a slight mention of video cameras. He wanted a straight answer, nikon or canon (assumably D800 vs 5D/etc). You immediately brought in 'tradition videocameras' into the equation and laid down your opinion (which many will disagree with - 'No DSLR is ideal for documentaries. Traditional video cameras are far better for that application.'). Perhaps you prefer tradition videocams, but many (including Philip Bloom) do not. But that's besides the point. The point is that you were the one who got the thread off topic to begin with, not Dave, not Victor.
 
Having both the Nikon D600 and the Canon 7D I like the Nikon better but in my opinion you have to judge each digital camera on its own and not so much by make.
I think the 5D III is better overall than the D800 because of less moire and better low light.


The biggest issue I have with my D600 is the moire.
I like the resolution, the sharpness and the colors.


My 7D does not look as good as the D600 on any level but it is “older technology” so I figured that would be the case.


Canon vs Nikon?
It's up to what you need or want in the end.
Test them all if you can and go from there.
 
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