Canon R5 Announced with 8k

The firmware is out. Looks mostly like a nothing burger. Regarding overheating it says:

"Temperature detection and shooting time control in video shooting have been improved. In addition, the total shooting time when the short-time recording and power-on/off are performed repeatedly at room temperature is improved."
 
From CR:

"Update 2: The firmware coming shortly looks to be more about bug fixes than feature additions. Cinema RAW Light and CLog-2 and CLog-3 are not going to be in this update, but they are coming soon.

Perhaps the bugs have to be addressed before adding features.

Sorry folks, but this is the way things go sometimes."

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Yes, this is the way things go...meaningful updates will come after everything new gets sold.

https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-eos-r5-firmware-update-coming-in-the-next-24-hours/
 
They just reprogrammed the fake overheating parameters to resemble "real life" more.

The curried rice solution still smells the best.
 
"Temperature detection and shooting time control in video shooting have been improved. In addition, the total shooting time when the short-time recording and power-on/off are performed repeatedly at room temperature is improved."
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The arrogance of that statement is insulting.
 
That is of course how I and presumably thousands of others planned to use the camera, but no one ever imagined they would take it this far.

So without any hacks, if you have a limit then you have a limit. If you can shoot 8 minutes and you capture 30 seconds, you have 7 minutes and 30 seconds left (obviously within the hour or two or three, and not 8 hours later or something).

You can't work like this.
 
Bassman2003 said:
Tough to trust they will ever really fix this situation.
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Spoiler alert: they will never fix this situation because nothing is broken as far as they're concerned. If they were ever going to do it, it would have been now.

They also changed something regarding the HDMI out settings. I'm not sure if it will affect external record times
 
I generally like Gordon. His reviews are very detailed and thorough. But this is where a YouTube reviewer needs to be loyal to his viewers rather than to a manufacturer. I don't see it in his clip.

PS. Chelsea Northrup has an undying allegiance to Tony. Which takes both of them out of a "100% reputable" class.


ahalpert said:
Spoiler alert: they will never fix this situation because nothing is broken as far as they're concerned. If they were ever going to do it, it would have been now...
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Their "fix" can't be too good of a fix because it'd just prove the extent of the original cripple. So, they move the needle by half a step, when it needed to go to eleven.
 
I have often thought about how much money I would sell out for.

Not saying anyone is selling out, but you honesty can't blame them if they were.

Life is short. World's crazy.

You can only, maybe trust the people who are consistently saying negative things about everything and everyone.

Not negative as in Micro-HDMI "boo-hoo" :crybaby:, but things that can affect sales, thoughts on a company. But then you wouldn't get paid or offered gear so who can you trust?

The answer is no one...and what every single successful person tells you.
 
NorBro said:
I have often thought about how much money I would sell out for...
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If a YouTube reviewer upsets one cartel member, he upsets all cartel members. And that means no advanced cameras to review. You want one, get it from a store, while others get a two week jump on you. Which means a rebel's YouTube channel is going under and, if its owner is making big bucks off it, that's a livelihood going by the wayside. So, the manufacturers have a big sway over them.

PS. Totally different on cars. In fact, Scotty Kilmer can be that "guy who hates everything" and still get 3.5M subscribers. And he doesn't care what the manufacturers say.
 
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Yeah, there is indeed also status to consider.

When you have millions following you, the companies want you and you have more control.

People like Linus Tech Tips and MB have nothing to lose.
 
DLD said:
PS. Totally different on cars. In fact, Scotty Kilmer can be that "guy who hates everything" and still get 3.5M subscribers. And he doesn't care what the manufacturers say.
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Counterpoint: Andrew Reid of EOSHD

He doesn't get advance loaners, but his site has survived
 
Andrew Reid has 3000 YT subscribers. No one outside of forum geeks knows him.

Power comes from control of brains/information on a worldwide platform.

Channels with millions of subscribers are getting thousands - dozens - hundreds of thousands new eyes every day.
 
And there's a personal relationship too. There is probably a reason why Gordon Laing became the first responder, as it were, in the English speaking world. Quite likely, his contacts at Canon knew what he would say or even told him what needed to be said.
 
ahalpert said:
Counterpoint: Andrew Reid of EOSHD

He doesn't get advance loaners, but his site has survived
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Reid has had a pretty bad rep as a blogger for many a year. Kind of a "can't touch this" territory. His YouTube channel would face a lot of problems, which is why it is generally dormant.
 
DLD said:
I generally like Gordon. His reviews are very detailed and thorough. But this is where a YouTube reviewer needs to be loyal to his viewers rather than to a manufacturer. I don't see it in his clip.
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Personally, I value reviewers like Gordon that don't do as much speculation or editorializing. He passed along the information he received from the Canon reps, did some testing of the new firmware on his own and reported the results. Then you can draw your own conclusions about whether the information from Canon was nonsense or whether the camera is a useful tool in its current form.

Unless he had firm evidence to indicate that the information from Canon was wrong, engaging in speculation or criticism doesn't accomplish much. There's plenty of that elsewhere on the web already. And if anything, the freezer cool down tests suggest that some temperature readings are being used by the camera with the new firmware, which somewhat supports the information Canon told him. And he acknowledges that long clip recording is not significantly improved and that video recording behavior, while somewhat improved with the new firmware, is still far from ideal.

If anything, reviewers like Gordon tend to be less entertaining than those more interested in generating controversy. So I'm not sure that his approach is necessarily even good from the perspective of generating the most views. But I appreciate the approach when trying to understand how a tool will actually perform.

I don't expect reviewers to try to be a consumer advocate. Ultimately, the best way to get a company to change is to vote with your wallet.
 
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DLD said:
Reid has had a pretty bad rep as a blogger for many a year. Kind of a "can't touch this" territory. His YouTube channel would face a lot of problems, which is why it is generally dormant.
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He only has 36 videos on YT. He's not really a youtuber so it's hard to compare.

He actually gets advance review units from Panasonic and Sigma (like the S5 he has currently). So I dont think the cartel operates monolithically
 
Tom Roper said:
I don't think so because there is a tab on the door that presses into the slot when it is closed. The spoof is to make the camera think the door is closed when you pull the battery, which covering it with tape won't do. And for best flavor, a curried or seasoned brown rice should be used.
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Yes the thin tape does that because it’s pressed into to sensor gap by the counterpart on the door. I wouldn’t have written that if I didn’t have proofed it. Feel free to test it by yourself
 
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