Canon R5 Announced with 8k
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ahalpert
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What does that mean? The camera will transcode it for you?
NorBro
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Seems like real-time for 8K, probably quicker for 4K (which I see you can do too). 1080p IPB is the result.
Peter C.
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Many forums are like that there's a group dynamic where people follow who's popular. Say something true and either ppl go after you, or will ignore it, until someone they like says the same thing... It's bit like politics people aren't really interested in the truth if it doesn't support their narrative.
And there's the whole fan boy thing that I loath. On another forum, when the g5 was first released the fan boys were jumping up and down claiming it would put Sony and Canon out of business, it would change the world, etc. Good camera, have nothing against it, but like everything has its pros and cons, can we simply have an unbiased talk? In another few years some other camera jumps up. Once you've seen it play out once, its all the same. Right now its the R5.
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ahalpert
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High school never ends
"Hollywood is like high school with money" - Martin Mull.
BMCUSER.COM is effectively dead.
Landmine, who own and operate REDUSER and DVXUSER as well, decided for some reason to upgrade the site in 2019. Ever since then it's been bricked. It's almost impossible to sue and is non-functional.
Many users have tried to get Landmine to either revert the site the older software (like what runs here and RU) or even just have a BMC thread on this site. They've decided for whatever reason to let it die.
I got invited to be a moderator at a new forum bmd users dot com like I was at BMCUSER and it's only been a few days that it's been running. I'm not sure how that will, go, it's WP based with is a worry too. But so far I've been surprised at how active it is...
There's lot's of camera forums out there, I'm not sure the world needs another one, but there's a lot of history and knowledge in BMCUSER as a community and it's a shame that was abandoned. 263 000 posts in 8 years is pretty good...
For now it seems like that info is still there, but who knows for how long...
JB
EDIT...funnily enough I see that the link for the new forum is blocked
Thanks John. Looks like JaRED doesn't like BM competition. I had a RED one in the 200 hundreds and I never want another RED again. Don't worry. When BMD comes out with a smaller cheaper camera that board will be blasting away. You're dealing with a pandemic and out of work people where $10,000 is out of reach right now to get a group to defect.
Run&Gun
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The "RED Culture" and fanboy attitude are definitely what turns some away from RED. And it's kind of sad, because there are plenty of normal, level-headed people with RED cameras doing great things with them that don't act like that. I have seen some of the most ridiculous behavior you could imagine over on RU. I've been following the Komodo sub-forum over there, because I'm interested in that camera and there is a thread 17 pages deep about receiving and replying to emails for ordering the white (stormtrooper) Komodo. Posts along the lines of, "I received the email and immediately replied at 5:56am. I didn't hear anything back by 6:01am so I replied again. It's 6:18am, now and I still haven't gotten a reply. Do you think I need to email them again? Do you think I screwed something up?". And page after page of adults(professionals?) posting the date and the EXACT time when they received and replied to emails and how long it took to get resplies and if they still haven't gotten a reply and should they email them again, so they can try to figure out where they are "in line" and when they may receive their cameras. It's honestly one of the damndest things I've ever seen. It's almost like little kids in the back seat of a car saying "are we there yet? are we there yet?" over and over and over... But more annoying and sad. It's also amazing the sheer number of people(at least a couple hundred, from what I gather) absolutely tripping over themselves to pay EXTRA(~17% premium) to buy a camera with un-finished firmware.
Run&Gun
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It actually started a few weeks before with an article on the Tilta accessories for it.
I think it's more than just the amount of money spent. I think it's deeper and the cameras and culture have become tied inextricably to their self-identity and their perception of their self-worth.
John Brawley
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puredrifting
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I purposely try to avoid buying lifestyle products for the reasons you listed and even when I do (Apple products veer into this territory), I shun fanboyism and being an Apple fanatic for the same reason. People get really freaking weird about that stuff.
These are stupid boxes of electronics, not magic talismans. I've hated the RED image (skulls, diamond plate, Ed Hardy graphic influence, the dumb product names, etc. ) because its so incredibly sophmoric and everything that people who aspire to create content and art should
eschew.
ahalpert
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I mean, I would still buy the cameras. RU isn't stopping me from buying the cameras. Having clients who don't want RAW is. The cameras are great, although the overpriced accessories ecosystem is what one owner called "a special kind of financial torture."
Oh one other nice thing about Matt Allard of Newsshooter - he put out a post about the new BM forum. The very first comment on that post was like, "why are you driving traffic away from your own site" haha. I appreciate his chill live-and-let-live mentality. Very un-American lol
Clermond
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Probably because he’s Australian
Liam Hall
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Forget what? LOL.
Liam Hall
Veteran
And this is what is great about DVX; we can turn a heated debate about the failings or not of a major new product launch into an erudite discussion and takedown of another forum, its competing camera system and its mad-as-a-box-of-frogs fanboys - just don't mention politics, guns or religion:-D
ahalpert
Major Contributor
Newsshooter has compiled all the movie recording info from the manual. It's all in the manual, but he's culled it and presented it in one place: https://www.newsshooter.com/2020/08...-you-need-to-know-if-you-are-recording-video/
A few items of note -
"The screen display may seem slightly slow in low temperatures or may look black in high temperatures. It will return to normal at room temperature
If there is a very bright light source in the image, the bright area may appear black on the screen. Movies are recorded almost exactly as they appear on the screen. Image noise or irregular colors may occur when shooting at high ISO speeds, high temperatures, slow shutter speeds, or under low light.
Display of the Temperature icon during movie recording also indicates that the camera will turn off automatically in approx. 3 min
According to Canon, when attaching or detaching RF lenses you should always set the camera’s power switch to <OFF>.
Although Canon doesn’t specifically state that you do this for EF lenses when using any of the EF-EOS R adapters, they do still state, ‘For lens precautions, see Attaching/Detaching RF Lenses.’"
A few items of note -
"The screen display may seem slightly slow in low temperatures or may look black in high temperatures. It will return to normal at room temperature
If there is a very bright light source in the image, the bright area may appear black on the screen. Movies are recorded almost exactly as they appear on the screen. Image noise or irregular colors may occur when shooting at high ISO speeds, high temperatures, slow shutter speeds, or under low light.
Display of the Temperature icon during movie recording also indicates that the camera will turn off automatically in approx. 3 min
According to Canon, when attaching or detaching RF lenses you should always set the camera’s power switch to <OFF>.
Although Canon doesn’t specifically state that you do this for EF lenses when using any of the EF-EOS R adapters, they do still state, ‘For lens precautions, see Attaching/Detaching RF Lenses.’"