Canon R5 Announced with 8k

Depends on what you're doing but a general all around 24-70mm is what I'd go with. My question would be is it worth spending the extra $700 for an extra stop for the 28-70mm. I mean at this price point why not go all in.
 
Usually, the 24-70mm is truly the no-brainer as your first piece of zoom glass, especially because you can use the S35mm crop to get a bit more reach.

But I think only in a normal world.

I have a strong feeling not many video production get togethers will be happening in the next 6-12 months, and I'm wondering if the 70-200mm would actually be the crazier, better investment this time (especially from a lot of social distancing).

And I'd still have a 24mm prime or something for the rest.
 
I normally shoot on primes, but these RF zooms look staggeringly good. However, I'm sticking with EF lenses via the Canon adapter with built-in ND. I think that is a better combination for video.
 
Liam Hall said:
I normally shoot on primes, but these RF zooms look staggeringly good. However, I'm sticking with EF lenses via the Canon adapter with built-in ND. I think that is a better combination for video.
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I've lost two weeks of sleep over this. It's such an amazing choice, especially if you/since you have EF glass.

I'd be starting from scratch and I can't mentally get over the fact that the camera would not be communicating with EF lenses as well as with RF lenses for IBIS and AF.

I am trying though. But I just don't see not going all in on the RF mount with this final investment.
 
NorBro said:
I've lost two weeks of sleep over this. It's such an amazing choice, especially if you/since you have EF glass.

I'd be starting from scratch and I can't mentally get over the fact that the camera would not be communicating with EF lenses as well as with RF lenses for IBIS and AF.

I am trying though. But I just don't see not going all in on the RF mount with this final investment.
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The tests I've seen with EF lenses look exceptional. Way better than my C500, so I'm comfortable using an adapter... ...for now...
 
I think it's excellent - and it's more about the IBIS for me - but keep in mind there are precise control settings that may be disabled with some EF lenses.

C500's giving you trouble?
 
Yeah I forgot that 28-70mm is big. 3.15lbs big. The 70-200mm is 2.35lbs. Is any iBIs going to do the job at 200mm for video.
 
This video shows IBIS @200mm BEFORE the new lens firmware update was released a few days ago unlocking the new R5/6 IS technology. So if it's that good before more improvement was enabled...

But that actually makes me want the 24-70mm sometimes more because then that means pure rock solid IS at 24mm or 50mm for everyday shooting which is so fun. And that 24-70mm is even half a stop stronger (at least on paper).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTGq4-DGy10
 
BTW, pulling manual focus...the struggle in the first 10 seconds (of the film) immediately knocked my concentration.
 
Looks nice!

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So to further add to the confusion, this dude in 100° Austin, TX didn't have his camera shut down in what appeared to be random shooting like many of us have been talking about (a little here, a little there).

Everything we've been watching, these random experiences by humans, day-in and day-out...all subject to change for everyone at any time/day/shoot.

 
No doubt about it.

Playing with fire (full-frame) way too fast with a moving target, and also second guessing himself...something ALL of us always do or have done in the past.
 
NorBro said:
No doubt about it.

Playing with fire (full-frame) way too fast with a moving target, and also second guessing himself...something ALL of us always do or have done in the past.
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It was still a great project and the graded shots look really good. I know they’re also getting in an accessories sales pitch but I’d lose all of the rigging and use the bare camera.
 
NorBro said:
I have considered the 28-70mm, but I ruled it out because of its size. (The 24-105mm below is about the same size of the 24-70mm.)

So it would be the smaller 24-70mm or just the bigger 70-200mm which is actually less wider than the 28-70mm, but just a bit longer (when closed).

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https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-RF-28-70mm-f-2L-USM-Lens.aspx
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New to this discussion, but I have the R5 preordered and the RF 24-70 paired with the EOS R. I passed on the 28-70 for two reasons - the insane filter size (I use vari-ND for video and have a NISI 100mm system for landscape photos) and some of the worst focus breathing I've ever seen in a lens. Its brilliant in some situations and would make a great photo event lens, but a hard pass on the video side from me.

As far as the discussion on the R5, I'm starting to waver on my preorder. I also shoot Sony and now I'm pondering the a7s3. I shoot a lot of stills and video, so I'm trying to find the unicorn 1-camera solution that will allow me to grab content without lots of lens swaps and juggling multiple cameras. I want 120fps for some nice slow-mo and AF as I'm a touch farsighted. Manual focus is pretty much impossible for me in the bright sun - and I live in Florida so that's more or less everything I shoot. Great video AF is a must-have for me. The R5 looked like everything I wanted in a camera finally came to be as its taken what I like about the R and turned it up to 11. But I'm really worried about the overheating - and I don't shoot any long takes - I'm a total ENG shooter that does short interviews and just rolls for 10 seconds and moves to another spot. I constantly turn off the camera to preserve batteries, so its not like its on all the time - credit the a6300 and a7r2 overheating issues for getting me in that habit LOL!

Anyway, I have a Ninja V, so I can grab 4k HQ with an external recorder (generates far less heat judging by Gerald Undone and others posted record times) and just use the 120p for short bursts, like wakeboarders or surfers riding past. I get a little giddy thinking about 8k raw for that perfect sunrise shot over the water. But the entire camera shutting down is my big concern, pretty tough finding cooling options outside. I hate to play the buy/test/return game even though B&H's policies clearly allow it, but this is one where I'd need to spend some time trying to cover all scenarios to see if it'll work. Like what if I accidentally left the Ninja batteries at home on the charger and I'm 200 miles away? Ugh.

Cheers

Chris
 
NorBro said:
Although I also posted GL's videos because I like his tests, I've also been a little confused by his non C-Log clips because the details aren't clear.

Meaning...if the camera's C-Log is turned 'OFF' then the only way to capture internal 10-bit is to turn HDR PQ 'ON'.

And I don't know what we're looking at in clips like the one above. Is that HDR PQ 10-bit or a picture style like neutral 8-bit, you know?
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Wouldn't that affect gradient and color but not detail?
 
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