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NorBro said:
I'm surprised it was still usable for you...bad AF ruins productions.

But better than nothing, I assume.
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I know you were replying to Ahalpert here, but with the deeper dof afforded by M4/3, I could have stopped down and gain'd up a bit, use of autofocus not necessary. But what we are talking about here is when AF is doing a decent job of keeping your subject in focus, but subject movement is causing small changes to the focus that are not seen on the subject but are seen in background or at the edges. This would go unnoticed if you were shooting handheld, but when locked down on a tripod, becomes a problem with a whole lotta lenses.
 
ahalpert said:
Incidentally here was the original shot. Try to watch it without going insane: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K1zIKRfj1LJ3mr2AaKezKBrgdNulb5Yu/view?usp=drivesdk

And the final version, interview shot at 0:20 - https://vimeo.com/434132313/9381b1a9e2
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I thought I could see a trace in birds in the final version, but haven't had a chance to download the google drive. If that's representative it is very slight. Mine was much more of a problem because there was more separation from the subject to the background, and because they were small incandescents (thinking Christmas lights) with bokeh swelling/shrinking.

Awesome Great video btw!!!
 
Yeah that sounds like hell. This issue for me was a very quick fix thankfully.

The final version is weird though because the client also wanted me to remove the reflections. Which ended up being faster and more effective for me to overlay the digital file of his photo onto the video. But it was weird to do and required distortion to line up...i was never 100% satisfied oddly. And then I feathered the transition edge between the digital photo and the video around him. Maybe that's some of the weirdness you're seeing on the birds?
 
ahalpert said:
Yeah that sounds like hell. This issue for me was a very quick fix thankfully.

The final version is weird though because the client also wanted me to remove the reflections. Which ended up being faster and more effective for me to overlay the digital file of his photo onto the video. But it was weird to do and required distortion to line up...i was never 100% satisfied oddly. And then I feathered the transition edge between the digital photo and the video around him. Maybe that's some of the weirdness you're seeing on the birds?
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I agree, that's it for sure. I saw only the slightest trace briefly. Great job with it!!
 
Thank you - the client was impressed too. But it was really just 2 mouse clicks in FCPX (my god the software has gotten good). Dealing with the reflections was a much thornier problem...
 
ahalpert said:
I'm pretty sure the XT3 does not overheat but has similar video specs. Just no IBIS.
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We now have three of them. Have never received an overheating warning or had a shutdown, even shooting all day in the crazy nulcear bright and hot Florida sun last year.
I have been reading a lot of negative behaviors with the X-T4, really glad we doubled down on the X-T3s instead.
 
puredrifting said:
Shooting and editing weddings is a form of modern indentured servitude.
You make just enough to seem reasonable but then you go down to the company store and blow it all on gear, just to "keep up". Should be illegal ;-)
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The boss said one more season and my debt is paid...

A lot of the wedding shooters I know (both stills and video) don't refresh their gear THAT often. Perhaps every other camera generation. Many also work a day job to keep them busy during the week and the off-season. For me, it's all the other types of shooting and editing I do.

It can be darn good money if you book the clients yourself. No middle man, plus you get the editing contract
 
ahalpert said:
Not better than MF in this case :)

Yeah it was usable. FCP corrected the scaling and I could afford to lose a bit of the edges. There was enough DOF that he looked in focus regardless of where the focal plane was
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Tom Roper said:
I know you were replying to Ahalpert here, but with the deeper dof afforded by M4/3, I could have stopped down and gain'd up a bit, use of autofocus not necessary. But what we are talking about here is when AF is doing a decent job of keeping your subject in focus, but subject movement is causing small changes to the focus that are not seen on the subject but are seen in background or at the edges. This would go unnoticed if you were shooting handheld, but when locked down on a tripod, becomes a problem with a whole lotta lenses.
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ha, I meant having any footage is better than not having any at all. MF all the way if it's the better choice for you and/or the camera.
 
Tom Roper said:
Not like this is a secret, but my GH5 has overheated and shut down too, recording 2nd camera from a tripod in the sun, at a wedding ceremony. There was a 2nd shooter and his camera also a GH5 shut down at the same event. In fact mine may have shut down twice, I vaguely recall seeing a message come across the screen that it was overheating.
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Yikes. I shot some machine walk around videos in North Africa last year in June with a GH5 and a GH5s. It was >40C / >104F and everybody almost collapsed but the two little beasts held up in direct sun.
 
Tom Roper said:
I shoot weddings, lots of them. The client doesn't always specify whether a documentary or highlight reel was ordered. It is expected they want both. They want footage, lots of it, 125-150 takes, 2 cameras minimum, backup shots, safety angles, wide shots, slow motion. And don't miss any of the seminal moments that happen even before the ceremony starts, the arrival of bride and groom, getting ready shots, opening of gifts, reading of letters, wedding party shots, bridesmaids, groomsmen, bride and groom first look, the officiant, the groom's reaction to seeing his bride, bride walking up the aisle, the vows, lighting of candles, pouring of sand, exchange of rings, couple's introduction, first kiss, family portraits, the guests, the food, reception line, the grand entrance, dinner tables, buffet lines, the toasts, speeches, first dances, cake cutting, garter toss, bouquet toss, the money dance, the send off, just to name a few. And it's all HD. Those 5-7 minute highlight reels are a lot promotional bulls*%t, most of them. The couple just paid big money. They usually want *everything* covered and sometime want the raw footage too. You record the audio as well, mic the groom, plug into the soundboard, the pa, the dj, check the recording levels. And lights. You have lots of equipment, shooting sticks, charged batteries, and stage it beforehand, prepared for any eventuality, sudden showers, driving winds. You're on the go the whole time, without the luxury of being a cinematographer. Your highlights are culled from having lots of shots of everything, table settings, rings, dresses, shoes, hands, feet, faces, invitations, marquees, menus. It's serious work. Your equipment better be 100% ready for it. You too.
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I just got a headache. And back ache. And foot ache...
 
DLD said:
Does B&H stock camera/beer carrying cases? (see, now I add to my own joke ... well, I claim it anyway)

As to cooling, there's likely to be a myriad of solutions, similar to what was done on A6300 or C500. The more a manufacturer cooperates, the more elegant they would be. Even a sealed body can be cooled from the outside, if there are any open metal membranes that conduct heat.
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https://www.amazon.com/2-Piece-Adju...595140314&sprefix=gel+ice+pack,aps,183&sr=8-7
I could use these for my back or the R5...
 
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