Canon R5 Announced with 8k

It's getting real - canonrumors leaks 8K recording info.

Looks like the R5 can record 8K in DCI or 16:9 aspect ratios. And in RAW, all-I or IPB codecs, which is fantastic. But maybe in 24.00 fps and not 23.98? I'm a little confused.

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As you can see, you can shoot either 8K DCI or 8K ultra, which will be slightly different resolutions. The resolutions of the two modes will likely be 8192×4320 and 7680×4320.

Codecs for 8K recordings appear to be ALL-I, IPB, and obviously RAW.

8K 30p and 4K 120p will not have a crop.

There will be no recording 8K video to both cards simultaneously.

Outside of environmental factors, there will be no overheating issues when recording 8K for more than 15 minutes."

https://www.canonrumors.com/8k-recording-options-for-the-canon-eos-r5-leak/
 
ahalpert said:
It's getting real - canonrumors leaks 8K recording info.

Looks like the R5 can record 8K in DCI or 16:9 aspect ratios. And in RAW, all-I or IPB codecs, which is fantastic. But maybe in 24.00 fps and not 23.98? I'm a little confused.

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As you can see, you can shoot either 8K DCI or 8K ultra, which will be slightly different resolutions. The resolutions of the two modes will likely be 8192×4320 and 7680×4320.

Codecs for 8K recordings appear to be ALL-I, IPB, and obviously RAW.

8K 30p and 4K 120p will not have a crop.

There will be no recording 8K video to both cards simultaneously.

Outside of environmental factors, there will be no overheating issues when recording 8K for more than 15 minutes."

https://www.canonrumors.com/8k-recording-options-for-the-canon-eos-r5-leak/
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The camera is (99.99% probably) set for PAL.
 
I like the look of the menu structure. Looking forward to seeing the images from the R5. If the IBIS is strong and rolling shutter is not out of control, with DP autofocus and up to 8k RAW, this appears to be THE small camera everybody has been wanting since the 5D MKII.
 
All of Canon's DSLRs/mirrorless' have that menu structure.

Enjoyed very much by most people and right there behind BM as the best.
 
"8K".

Do you guys really want to shoot 8K?
I would be figuring out a way to lock that part of the menu out personally.
4K's a big enough PITA, 6K even more so.

I am alright with them including it as we will get to a point in the next couple of years where 8K becomes workable
in the download, storage and post workflows but we aren't even close now unless you are spending ten times the price
of this camera body for your entire reader, laptop in the field, drives, storage and post workflow, esepcially if you shoot long form
as many of us here do. Discounting 8K, what else is exciting to you about the R5?

The menus look identical to my now ancient 80D.
 
No one's shooting 8K two-hour interviews...

In fact, many professionals even drop the resolution (or data rate) of interviews or long-form material because it's mostly covered by b-roll anyway.

8K will be nice for 10-20 clips for a very high-quality 30-second commercial. And if it's mastered in 4K, you may even triple your shot coverage.

It has its purpose. It will be used well.

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As far as everything else, excited to see IBIS perform.
 
Another rumor site (mirrorlessrumors.com) reported the 8K RAW bitrate to be about 3.2Gbps (21 min footage in 512GB). Part of the reason I'm interested in IPB.

I'm not especially interested in 8K. There are times when I'd like to be able to crop in, perhaps a wide shot of a panel discussion. If I didn't have a manned camera getting close-ups of whoever is talking. Maybe shooting a product shot with a chance to punch in?

I don't do much rotoscope stuff. Maybe higher res could help cleaning up a chromakey? Tho not as much as higher bit-depth and color sampling

8K is not a high priority for me. Options are nice, but at what cost?
 
ahalpert said:
... 8K is not a high priority for me. Options are nice, but at what cost?
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I'd think that, depending on the compression, the early costs are going to be in time and the processing power rather than the file size. Unless someone shoots 8K Raw all the time.
 
Why would you need so much room for crop in that you need 8k? There is really no problem if you have to zoom in a bit let’s say to 140%. But with the 8k option your clients will ask for „one shot fits all“. You cannot want this.
 
DLD said:
I'd think that, depending on the compression, the early costs are going to be in time and the processing power rather than the file size. Unless someone shoots 8K Raw all the time.
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No - what if the cost is that it's a jello cam? Or that 4k must be line-skipped in order to read the 8k sensor fast enough?
 
Clermond said:
Why would you need so much room for crop in that you need 8k? There is really no problem if you have to zoom in a bit let’s say to 140%. But with the 8k option your clients will ask for „one shot fits all“. You cannot want this.
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For example - I shot a conference lsast December. 2 cameras on the panel (one wide, one with my assistant operating a CU on whoever was talking). I'm floating around shooting interviews and b-roll.

8K camera = 1 camera on the panel and no assistant. I could crop to 400 or 800% with a sharp lens and get a close-up from a very wide shot.

So...for inartful stuff where I could cut a camera/operator?

Or - I was just sent a self-shot interview from an a7riii of a photographer in front of his framed print. Client wanted me to roto out the reflections on the glass. More resolution helps there

Again, it's not at the top of my list.
 
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ahalpert said:
No - what if the cost is that it's a jello cam? Or that 4k must be line-skipped in order to read the 8k sensor fast enough?
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I think he may have meant 8K in general, not necessarily just the R5.

ahalpert said:
For example - I shot a conference lsast December. 2 cameras on the panel (one wide, one with my assistant operating a CU on whoever was talking). I'm floating around shooting interviews and b-roll.

8K camera = 1 camera on the panel and no assistant. I could crop to 400 or 800% with a sharp lens and get a close-up from a very wide shot.

So...for inartful stuff where I could cut a camera/operator?

Or - I was just sent a self-shot interview from an a7riii of a photographer in front of his framed print. Client wanted me to roto out the reflections on the glass. More resolution helps there

Again, it's not at the top of my list.
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Were you paying for the extra cam and op out of your own pocket or was the client paying? I've never really shot high-res(4K+) for reframing purposes, but I know that when you crop-in 100% in stills, it usually looks bad. You'll see geometric distortion and flattening that isn't there/visible "full screen".
 
ahalpert said:
8K camera = 1 camera on the panel and no assistant. I could crop to 400 or 800% with a sharp lens and get a close-up from a very wide shot.
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This is really wonderful in terms of post-practicality if it's okay to do so for the client, but it's worth noting it also has to be manageable, one-and-done, and/or you have to have a powerful computer.

Have you ever worked with any 8K? I would kindly guess no.

Say you export your 1+ hour panel and someone comes back and says, "Oh - by the way - can you please cut this 30-second portion out?"

Then you have to re-export that 8K resolution file in presumably CRL even if it's in a 1080p timeline (which doesn't mean it's going to be treated like 1080p footage), and the process could be very time-consuming, especially if more edits keep coming back.

But if the computer cuts through it (or multiple computers are available) then it's less of a concern.
 
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