Canon EOS RP SPecs are out - possibly?

What's interesting? There are no video specs on the list yet! haha

If it has 4K, DPAF (no resolution limitations) and C-LOG, I am going to buy it but it needs all three. I don't expect 4K FF (hoping for a 1.5x-ish crop) or of course 4K/60p.

I also don't expect MJPEG but that would be a real nice surprise.

This camera looks to be what the M50 should have been.
 
It has DPAF, it's right there in the spec list. I doubt it will have a better crop than the more expensive cousin. C-Log? I would hope so but it's Canon, who knows? Their feature sets are always an exercise in frustration.
I was at Canon Burbank yesterday for an FCP X editing workflow class, the sample project that the presenter used was a :60 promo video shot with the C200 in Cinema RAW Light, the EOS R and a 5D MKIV on a Ronin S.
From what I saw, in the edit, the EOS R and C200 footage looked noticeably better than the 5D MKIV footage.
 
i would hope the dpaf would work in 4k unlike dpaf from the m50.

and i'm always hoping for both a mic AND headphone jack.

a guy can hope, right?

thumbs up.

rob
smalltalk productions/nyc
 
puredrifting said:
It has DPAF, it's right there in the spec list.
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Depends on what they decide to do with it.

The M50 has DPAF only in HD. They went back to contrast detection in 4K and it's atrocious.

If you're a M50 owner, it's so frustrating to know that only with a tweak or two of hardware/software DPAF can instantly be in 4K and you'd have such an amazing little camera.
 
I have to say, I am only a slightly interested bystander now, the Fujifilm X-T3 is my new love, it's such a great little camera.
 
All still rumors (besides anything you can physically see)...will know for sure soon most likely from Nokis*%ta leaking it. (Nok-i-shi-ta)
 
puredrifting said:
This sounds not at all promising...."no confirmation that 4K video and Dual Pixel CMOS AF will work together on the EOS RP, or if the camera will revert to Contrast AF at a higher resolution, as Canon did for the EOS-M50 mirrorless."
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And this quote from a Canon employee is why we can't have nice things. - “With the EOS 5D Mark IV, we do offer 4K video and Dual Pixel CMOS autofocus, so technically it is feasible. But given the position of the M50 in the lineup, we can’t include all of the features available in a product like the 5D IV"

I've been through this too many times with Canon. Getting excited only to find there is one or more deal breakers they decided not to include. Not because they couldn't, but because they didn't want to. Fuji and Panasonic do not have the same predilections and try to make the best possible cameras for the price. Canon needs to get serious, they are riding on their laurels too much. I still like my C200, but frankly, Fuji is calling me. I may move to an SLR workflow, and it likely won't be Canon.
 
I remember that...that actually seemed like the first time they ever said that out loud, lol.

Fast forward to a few weeks ago and rumors indicated a more "aggressive" approach moving forward.

This new camera won't be a X-T3 because Canon still has too much pride, but if they include C-Log or 4K DPAF in this one only a few months after the EOS R started shipping then mountains have been moved.

If there is indeed less of a crop in 4K...all other companies will be on full alert as hell has officially frozen over.
 
brettsherman said:
And this quote from a Canon employee is why we can't have nice things. - “With the EOS 5D Mark IV, we do offer 4K video and Dual Pixel CMOS autofocus, so technically it is feasible. But given the position of the M50 in the lineup, we can’t include all of the features available in a product like the 5D IV"

I've been through this too many times with Canon. Getting excited only to find there is one or more deal breakers they decided not to include. Not because they couldn't, but because they didn't want to. Fuji and Panasonic do not have the same predilections and try to make the best possible cameras for the price. Canon needs to get serious, they are riding on their laurels too much. I still like my C200, but frankly, Fuji is calling me. I may move to an SLR workflow, and it likely won't be Canon.
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Or just use both. I still have and use my C200 for most client work, I use the X-T3 for gimbal, B-camera and as an A camera on some of my own documentary shoots.
if you are a working pro, you still need a video camera as far as I am concerned, XLRs, built in ND, RAW, there are still plenty of reasons to shoot the C200.
I still have to shoot log chip charts with both and seeing if I can get a color match between the two but have been way too busy with delivery deadlines to mess with doing this much.
 
puredrifting said:
if you are a working pro, you still need a video camera as far as I am concerned, XLRs, built in ND, RAW, there are still plenty of reasons to shoot the C200.
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No doubt. But I'm in the fortunate position of not having to impress anybody and just choose the right tool for the job. If I can get the job done at equal (or better) quality with less weight to carry around, then it's all good. There are pitfalls with the SLR workflow I know too well, and the amount of batteries I need to charge before a shoot is getting ridiculous. One significant advantage of the SLR workflow is buying two bodies is affordable and practical to travel with. You can sling a second around your shoulder for B-shots that match perfectly - no chip cards needed.

The question is not whether our two man shop will get rid of the C200. It's a question of whether we will replace our C300 Mk I with a C200-like cam or SLR option.
 
brettsherman said:
And this quote from a Canon employee is why we can't have nice things. - “With the EOS 5D Mark IV, we do offer 4K video and Dual Pixel CMOS autofocus, so technically it is feasible. But given the position of the M50 in the lineup, we can’t include all of the features available in a product like the 5D IV"

I've been through this too many times with Canon. Getting excited only to find there is one or more deal breakers they decided not to include. Not because they couldn't, but because they didn't want to. Fuji and Panasonic do not have the same predilections and try to make the best possible cameras for the price. Canon needs to get serious, they are riding on their laurels too much. I still like my C200, but frankly, Fuji is calling me. I may move to an SLR workflow, and it likely won't be Canon.
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You may get the best of both worlds, because I'd be shocked if Fuji didn't get into the pro cinema game in the next few years. If they released a camera with all the features of a C200, but with their film sims, IBIS, timecode and 400mbps h265 (alongside internal RAW), I'd be all over it.

I think we all would if it was priced within reach.
 
Fahnon said:
You may get the best of both worlds, because I'd be shocked if Fuji didn't get into the pro cinema game in the next few years. If they released a camera with all the features of a C200, but with their film sims, IBIS, timecode and 400mbps h265 (alongside internal RAW), I'd be all over it.

I think we all would if it was priced within reach.
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I've spoken with Fuji execs and engineers and there have been some interesting "tells" when I ask them about this and about how it seems "interesting" to put out to excellent cinema lenses in the $4k price range when their flagship APS C/S35 camera only costs $1,500.00, etc.
I really, really, hope they come out with a sub $10k digital cinema camera with the features you talk about. I think they could really be a player in that space, if they want to be?
 
The problem with that is I think a lot of people see the "cinema camera under $10k" market as a dying market that's getting squeezed from both ends.

Not that I agree, but I think that's definitely a perception.
 
jbregar said:
The problem with that is I think a lot of people see the "cinema camera under $10k" market as a dying market that's getting squeezed from both ends.

Not that I agree, but I think that's definitely a perception.
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I agree. I do think it is eventually going to dwindle. I can say, IMHO, that I can shoot 85% of what my C200 can with my X-T3 and the end result is as good, if not better. I've even had dark thoughts of selling my C200 and buying another X-T3 to have one on sticks and one for gimbal dedicated. But my broadcast and feature documentary clients wouldn't go for that.
If I was only making my own documentaries and making a living at it, I would totally sell my C200 and just use the X-T3, that's how good I think it is. If Fuji somehow decides to implement Prores RAW with Atomos as Nikon did with the Z6/7, that would tempt me even more. Still shooting 70% RAW with the C200.
 
As a person who uses the EOS-R as my C-Cam gimbal camera for A and B cam shooting with the C300 II, I'm partially interested in this new camera. Mostly, I am interested in the crop for the 4K and whether we will still be able to use ef-s lenses on the RP. 1080 60p in cropped mode would be the big win for the camera for video work and make it a better camera than the regular R. The "Full HD" modes on the Canon are the old Canon mush. The cropped modes are nice and sharp and only require the smaller efs lenses which are great for gimbal work.
 
Would you by any chance have any footage of the crop modes anywhere? Just wondering.

I remember you saying the 60p was unavailable, but the 24p looked good.
 
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