F55: Canon Cine Primes?

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brad smith

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Has anyone got any experience with the Canon Cine Primes?

They look good on paper, and with Canon's experince they should be a great lense for the new F's ........apart from the fact they are not yet available in PL
 
Tried them out at NAB last year, great glass.

If they were available in PL and it was a complete set they would be flying off of the shelves.

I have no need for an EF mount.
 
Sharper wide open than the Zeiss Superspeeds. Less contrasty.
Totally incomplete set 24, 50, 85. Why not a 35?
Aperture marks too close together.
No plans in the immediate future for the 35 or other wides. No PL mount.
Kind of a non-starter as a series of lenses.
Canon seems uncommitted.
 
I am with McGee...they have a great look. So much so, that I am considering coming-up with a convoluted scheme to make them work on my various cameras.
I disagree about Canon's commitment-look at their zooms hitting the market! They are stellar in their price range. They also just announced a 14mm and 135mm.

Another note: when I compared the Zeiss Speeds to the Canon Primes, the mechanics of the Canons seemed better to me--silky smooth, solid and accurate.
 
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LeavingTheCandy said:
I am with McGee...they have a great look. So much so, that I am considering coming-up with a convoluted scheme to make them work on my various cameras.
I disagree about Canon's commitment-look at their zooms hitting the market! They are stellar in their price range. They also just announced a 14mm and 135mm.

Another note: when I compared the Zeiss Speeds to the Canon Primes, the mechanics of the Canons seemed better to me--silky smooth, solid and accurate.
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Until there is a solution for between a 24mm and a 50mm, it's not a series.
Remember 35mm is the normal lens on most S35 cameras (1.6x), and super important on FF.
This may be because they are in the process of updating their famous 35/F1.4 L lens. However, that also means that there is at least another year of waiting. Seems to me that if this is the case, then they rushed to market the current three.

I should also should mention that I saw electrical issues with the ones I tested. The communication between aperture and camera created anomolies.
I like the optics, but these kind of things don't bode well for reliability over the long term.
 
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I'd be very careful investing so much money in EF-mount cine lenses. PL has been around forever in this market, resale value is in part due to this stability.

Canon getting into cine products again, but insisting on pushing their EF-mount...if that whole effort does not pan out for them in 10 years, you have some lenses that will be much less desirable. In my opinion, the prices they are asking demand a 10 year life or more.

Too much money for a mount that is not embraced by most of the market.
 
nateweaver said:
I'd be very careful investing so much money in EF-mount cine lenses. PL has been around forever in this market, resale value is in part due to this stability.

Canon getting into cine products again, but insisting on pushing their EF-mount...if that whole effort does not pan out for them in 10 years, you have some lenses that will be much less desirable. In my opinion, the prices they are asking demand a 10 year life or more.

Too much money for a mount that is not embraced by most of the market.
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Agreed! I will only consider buying them unless they are released in a PL mount (Canon are you listening?!). The prospect of these primes makes the Cine Zooms an attractive option, but without PL Primes that compliment, the Zooms are just another option in a growing range of choices.

I like the idea on paper, but I'll be waiting and looking at the new releases come NAB.

Thanks for the feedback.
 
I agree with their fail in not making them PL, but I think there's such a demand with the EOS-bases ecosystem, that they'd rent continuously. Every 5D, 7D, C100, C300 shooter lusts after these.
They can also be put on Epic/Scarlet with their Canon mount. Someone will come-up with an adapter/mount to make them work. Since they are all manual, the electronics (if they have them) is really a moot point.

While I agree that PL mounts would be more ideal, the K35's are mostly BNCR-mount and have you priced them lately? I'd guess/assume that their new primes have inherited some of the K-35 pixie dust as well. :engel017:

Am testing a set before the end of the year and will report details.
 
On the 10-year investment idea: if I can't amortize investments in a year or so, I'd just as well rent. (just my business model, not suggesting others' are wrong).
 
LeavingTheCandy said:
On the 10-year investment idea: if I can't amortize investments in a year or so, I'd just as well rent. (just my business model, not suggesting others' are wrong).
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Let me clarify...lenses are a smart buy because you can usually pay for them in a year or 3, and keep earning on them for another 10 years after that.

I just meant I think a scenario where you pay them off in 3 years, work them for another 2 years after that, and then EF mount becomes unworkable because of industry changes or Canon changes...I don't think a scenario like that is completely unlikely. The chance is high enough that I can think of much better choices when investing in lenses.
 
I hear you and it's a dilemma that we face. In this performance/Price arena, the only other lenses that I can think of are CP.2 Speeds. While my testing isn't yet conclusive, the "seat of my pants" feeling is the Canon's look/feel better and are more than likely designed from ground-up rather than just rehoused still lenses.

All in all, buying cameras these days is pretty easy, but lenses make my head hurt! :violin:
 
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