C500: Canon C700 Photos and Details from Texas Media Systems

I had the chance to play with one today in Toronto. On the shoulder it felt balanced . The viewfinder is great ! Better then the Sony Oled and much better then the one on an Arri Amira . The image from a lit model looked good on a 4k monitor .
 
heguy said:
I had the chance to play with one today in Toronto. On the shoulder it felt balanced . The viewfinder is great ! Better then the Sony Oled and much better then the one on an Arri Amira . The image from a lit model looked good on a 4k monitor .
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Jean, I was able to shoot some handheld with the prototype C700 that was used for the Canon promotional film and my main complaint was that the shoulder pad was pretty uncomfortable, like a soft 2x4 board, it didn't grip or wrap around my shoulder at all like a good one should. Did you experience the same thing? Keep in mind, I hefted the prototype, perhaps they refined the shoulder pad on the production model? I hope? We had a production model as well but they had the 30-300 mm Canon Cine Zoom on it so they didn't let us shoulder mount that camera.
 
puredrifting said:
Jean, I was able to shoot some handheld with the prototype C700 that was used for the Canon promotional film and my main complaint was that the shoulder pad was pretty uncomfortable, like a soft 2x4 board, it didn't grip or wrap around my shoulder at all like a good one should. Did you experience the same thing? Keep in mind, I hefted the prototype, perhaps they refined the shoulder pad on the production model? I hope? We had a production model as well but they had the 30-300 mm Canon Cine Zoom on it so they didn't let us shoulder mount that camera.
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The pad wasn't the best but better then a Shape one, the lastest zacuto universal plate pad is more confy . I didn't ask Canon but the pad looked a little ruff like if it was a prototype . If I was to buy I'd switch it to Zacuto or Vocas . To me anyway this will be a rental unit so I'd demand the rental house to switch the pad as part of the package .
 
I asked on the page before if there is a difference between Sony's electronic GS and a GS, but there probably isn't...I just wasn't sure to mention it because I felt like there was an exception with how it can be "electronically" turned on in the F5 via firmware.

Nevertheless, an amazing accomplishment.
 
To clarify the global shutter thing with Canon, the C300 MK II, with 2 "engines" has no apparent rolling shutter no matter how fast you try to do a "whip pan" to make RS show up....even if you did, it's not a shot you'll ever use. On the C700, there is 3 "engines" so I believe there is no RS and I got that confirmed by the guys shooting "The Calling"....."it was not an issue"...... We're advising our clients to first get the PL unit and if, for some reason they feel they need the PLGS, they can upgrade down the road with Canon's open architecture on the C700. Please remember, especially with Canon Cinema EOS, the spec sheet does not tell the whole story.....functionality, reliability, and field performance are the real way to know what a given camera can really do.

Jim Martin
EVSonline.com
 
Well let's just theorize that "2 engines" makes it twice as fast as a C300 Mark I, "three engines" make it three times as fast. It's still going to be present. If you're following race cars on a telephoto lens the background could have skew, camera flashes could still have issues, a train going by, etc. I doubt three times as fast would completely eliminate issues. Sure, for most shoots, like The Calling, it won't be an issue. But for some types of shoots, it could be.
 
puredrifting said:
Jean, I was able to shoot some handheld with the prototype C700 that was used for the Canon promotional film and my main complaint was that the shoulder pad was pretty uncomfortable, like a soft 2x4 board, it didn't grip or wrap around my shoulder at all like a good one should. Did you experience the same thing? Keep in mind, I hefted the prototype, perhaps they refined the shoulder pad on the production model? I hope? We had a production model as well but they had the 30-300 mm Canon Cine Zoom on it so they didn't let us shoulder mount that camera.
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Sounds like the F900. I don't think Sony ever REALLY intended for anyone to shoot with that camera on their shoulder.
 
Jim Martin said:
To clarify the global shutter thing with Canon, the C300 MK II, with 2 "engines" has no apparent rolling shutter no matter how fast you try to do a "whip pan" to make RS show up....even if you did, it's not a shot you'll ever use. On the C700, there is 3 "engines" so I believe there is no RS and I got that confirmed by the guys shooting "The Calling"....."it was not an issue"...... We're advising our clients to first get the PL unit and if, for some reason they feel they need the PLGS, they can upgrade down the road with Canon's open architecture on the C700. Please remember, especially with Canon Cinema EOS, the spec sheet does not tell the whole story.....functionality, reliability, and field performance are the real way to know what a given camera can really do.

Jim Martin
EVSonline.com
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But what about Flash Banding? In most real world shooting situations that I've used my 300(I) in, I haven't experienced skew, BUT flash banding is horrible, as with all non-GS CMOS sensors, even ones with built-in "compensation". For me. it's always been mostly about Flash Banding more-so than skew.
 
Run&Gun said:
Sounds like the F900. I don't think Sony ever REALLY intended for anyone to shoot with that camera on their shoulder.
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Ha, ha, I wish I would have known, I think I have a permanent indentation on my shoulder from lugging one back in the day.
 
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