Canon 5DS

BTW, for pixel counters like myself - Olympus's updated EM-5 has pixel-shifting a la Hasselblad high end camera which allows Olympus to claim 40 MPX out of a 16 MPX sensor. The catch here is that you have to use sticks because, apparently, the pixels don't shift fast enough otherwise.

Hasselblad claims a 200 MPX equivalent out of a 50 MPX Medium Format sensor ... but you're not allowed to breathe while pushing the shutter button either.

So, maybe a year or two from today, this 50 MPX 5DS will appear rather pedestrian.
 
Phil vG said:
http://www.hdwarrior.co.uk/2015/02/02/canon-5ds-now-sporting-50mp-but-no-headphone-socket/
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Seriously! What a dumb nit-wit entry. No headphone jack on a 50mp camera that is designed for PHOTOGRAPHERS.

And for some of you out there questioning this camera. At a certain level of photography one gets not a request, but the demand to shoot at certain high MP's. They are called for by MANY advertising agencies. I know because I have to rent big MP backs all the time for shoots. If this camera satisfies most of the agencies that I deal with, I gladly welcome this camera.
 
dustylense said:
Seriously! What a dumb nit-wit entry. No headphone jack on a 50mp camera that is designed for PHOTOGRAPHERS.

And for some of you out there questioning this camera. At a certain level of photography one gets not a request, but the demand to shoot at certain high MP's. They are called for by MANY advertising agencies. I know because I have to rent big MP backs all the time for shoots. If this camera satisfies most of the agencies that I deal with, I gladly welcome this camera.
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+1. To those of the what no 4k!, no headphone! crowd- Arri Amira costs $50,000 and doesn't take stills, how could that be? What were they thinking?
 
By the way, I found this story on a web a few days ago but, unfortunately, forgot where.

Anyway, to prove some camera high MPX capability - and I am pretty sure it wasn't a medium format cam - some photog was shooting a press conference with the German Minister of Defense Ursula vod der Leyen and the resolution/focus of his shots was so good, one could actually make a full identification of her fingerprints off her actual hands!

(this isn't what I first read but it's the same story off a different source)

http://thehackernews.com/2014/12/hacker-clone-fingerprint-scanner.html

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And a more official one from Deutsche Welle -

http://www.dw.de/german-defense-min...rint-copied-by-chaos-computer-club/a-18154832
 
DLD said:
BTW, for pixel counters like myself - Olympus's updated EM-5 has pixel-shifting a la Hasselblad high end camera which allows Olympus to claim 40 MPX out of a 16 MPX sensor. The catch here is that you have to use sticks because, apparently, the pixels don't shift fast enough otherwise...
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Correction - it's 63 MPX Raw and 40 in JPEG!
 
dustylense said:
Seriously! What a dumb nit-wit entry. No headphone jack on a 50mp camera that is designed for PHOTOGRAPHERS.

And for some of you out there questioning this camera. At a certain level of photography one gets not a request, but the demand to shoot at certain high MP's. They are called for by MANY advertising agencies. I know because I have to rent big MP backs all the time for shoots. If this camera satisfies most of the agencies that I deal with, I gladly welcome this camera.
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Why nit-wit? The article is just supporting your post. Look.

I hope Canon are finally getting back to making good photographic tools, as there are far too many large sensor video cameras around now.
 
jowei said:
Why nit-wit? The article is just supporting your post. Look.

I hope Canon are finally getting back to making good photographic tools, as there are far too many large sensor video cameras around now.
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Because of this.

"There is no headphone socket in either model so is totally useless for serious video work…mind you it does sport time-lapse (TL) which is still the preferred tool for TL work."
 
Despite some of the responses here to that hdwarrior article I agree with what he says regarding video work, at least for certain kinds (documentary, etc). I for one will never again buy any camera to do video that doesn't include a headphone jack. And no, I can't and don't want to pay for a more expensive camera to get a lousy headphone jack that costs a pittance to include. If one manufacturer won't make that available on their cameras for a certain price, plenty of other manufacturers will, for the same price or less. Right now, that price line of cameras that include that feature is in the neighborhood of $1000-$1500. Any camera that purports one of its main features to be video, is above that price, and doesn't include a headphone (and microphone) jack will not get my money.

Now, that being said, Canon can make this a photography-only tool if that is their wish. They will just disappoint many of their fans who use the 5D series for video if they don't provide a suitable alternative.
 
How difficult is it for people to understand that THERE IS NO ONE TOOL TO RULE THEM ALL

We're talking about a PHOTO camera, any video capabilities it MAY have are strictly secondary to it's primary function of capturing still photographs.

Not only that, it's a professional photo camera, not a rebel, which gives it even more reason to not include video-centric hardware such as a headphone jack.

People can wish/whine all they want, at the end of the day Canon and the likes know what they're doing for their target markets better than anyone here can claim.

/rant
 
Year after year I'm surprised how the "perfect" camera never comes to market yet seems simple on paper; we all essentially are looking for the same things. The closest anything ever got are the REDs.. but power consumption and fan noise is a HUGE concern for me. I was going to pull the trigger on a C500 just last week as well then discovered that this $16,000 camera doesn't record 4k RAW internally? WTH Canon! Then he BMCC4k loos great... no swappable battery an no slow-mo?! Once again, why? It's as if every camera released is purposely gimped.
 
Yes, most cameras are needlessly handicapped. Sometimes the company handicaps the camera on purpose, to steer you to a model that costs more. Other times it's just an accidental oversight.

Not all of us want the exact same thing, but themes emerge among threads for future cameras. I scratched out an ideal camera in 2008, which I think was totally doable even then, yet it still hasn't arrived. Seven years later, my needs have actually shrunk. If I drew it up today, I'd be fine with 2 XLRs, not 4; 60 fps, not 240 (thanks to Twixtor); and just a lens mount, not a built-in lens.
 
Shenan said:
Canon can make this a photography-only tool if that is their wish. They will just disappoint many of their fans who use the 5D series for video if they don't provide a suitable alternative.
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Why does every one of Canon's still photo cameras have to maintain certain a level of video/audio functionality? This will shoot video but that's besides the point the 5D IV will be more geared towards video don't get too upset that this one isn't.

Putting a headphone jack on a camera that records terrible audio is a waste of money that still photographers don't want to pay for (myself included). The only thing the audio in any DSLR is good for is a scratch track.

I'm all for not crippling cameras, but expecting headphone jacks and additional hardware features that videoagraphers think is important is just silly to put on a camera marketed to still photographers.
 
egproductions said:
why does every one of canon's still photo cameras have to maintain certain a level of video/audio functionality? This will shoot video but that's besides the point the 5d iv will be more geared towards video don't get too upset that this one isn't.

Putting a headphone jack on a camera that records terrible audio is a waste of money that still photographers don't want to pay for (myself included). The only thing the audio in any dslr is good for is a scratch track.

I'm all for not crippling cameras, but expecting headphone jacks and additional hardware features that videoagraphers think is important is just silly to put on a camera marketed to still photographers.
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qftmft
 
Yeah, I forgot that this is not the actual replacement for the 5D3, so never mind. I was just a bit surprised at the vitriol directed at the article for having one sentence pointing out that it's not a great choice for video because it doesn't have a headphone jack. That's just a fact. However, "totally useless" was indeed an exaggeration on their part. It could be fine for some types of video work.
 
egproductions said:
Putting a headphone jack on a camera that records terrible audio is a waste of money that still photographers don't want to pay for (myself included). The only thing the audio in any DSLR is good for is a scratch track.
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If you mean actual DSLRs only (i.e. with a mirror), I can't say if that's true or not. I wouldn't use one of those for video anyway because of the mirror so they can get rid of headphone and mic jacks for all I care. But I understand that some "DSLR"-like cameras, like the GH4 for instance, have good audio. Maybe this was all just a misunderstanding on my part.
 
The real question is, why would you even CONSIDER a 50mp camera for "serious" video work? Headphone jack or not! Again, this camera is made for photographers who won't give 2 sh**s about a video function much less a headphone jack. And I'm one of them.
The 5dmk4 coming later this year will be the hybrid stills video camera. And it will have a headphone jack.
 
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