Sheldon Charron
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Dang....
C300: Canon 1D-c Great Video on Pulling Still From Video
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Dang....
Scott Freestyle
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This is far more realistic of real world "stills from Video". Enjoy!
I would buy a 1DC.. but the CF cards issue is just to big of a deal breaker at the moment...I want a 5DC from NAB2013
I would buy a 1DC.. but the CF cards issue is just to big of a deal breaker at the moment...I want a 5DC from NAB2013
squig
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If I buy the Nikon next week I can almost guarantee it. :nads:
EIREHotspur
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The second video is very interesting.....like you said...real world testing.
Basically you are buying a 1DX with this extra ability...because I doubt many people will use 4k video yet.
Basically you are buying a 1DX with this extra ability...because I doubt many people will use 4k video yet.
AndreeOnline
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What issue are you referring to?
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I am also curious. (though if you don't get an answer, it could be the price issue.)
I have gotten a few seconds of 4k on a 400x card, I am curious to try out an 800x card, but haven't had the oppurtunity, and would rather put that money into other things than an unapproved CF card. But could save money for docu projects.
indiawilds
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Pulling out stills, the way it is advertised in the first video will not solve the purpose all the time. In wildlife photography, even if you use image stabilised lenses or heavy tripods, the shutter speed has to be high to freeze subject motion. There are moments when the subject is momentarily still and the slower shutter speed of 1/50 can be used in those moments to pull out a still. If you want motion blur in the still image, then you can pull out the still. I don't agree with the way the first video advertises that one can pull out stills from an elephant stamping its feet in mud.
1000x card is recommended for the 1D C. The prices of 1000x cards are falling. Ofcourse, I had hoped for a steeper fall.
1000x card is recommended for the 1D C. The prices of 1000x cards are falling. Ofcourse, I had hoped for a steeper fall.
AndreeOnline
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The 1Dc loaner I have until I get my own camera came with two 32GB Sandisk cards. They are 90MB/s and I have no issues so far.
Sandisk rates them at 600x but note that they have 90MB/s WRITE.
Some manufacturers say 600x or 800x and might have 100MB/s READ but only 45MB/s WRITE. You will need the write performance.
Transcend has 64GB 600x 90MB/s read/write cards at B&H for $178. They've got a 64GB 1000x 160 read/120 write card for $199.
I'm going for Transcend's 128GB 1000x cards for $399.
Sandisk rates them at 600x but note that they have 90MB/s WRITE.
Some manufacturers say 600x or 800x and might have 100MB/s READ but only 45MB/s WRITE. You will need the write performance.
Transcend has 64GB 600x 90MB/s read/write cards at B&H for $178. They've got a 64GB 1000x 160 read/120 write card for $199.
I'm going for Transcend's 128GB 1000x cards for $399.
Scott Freestyle
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Sorry guys, I'm referring to the size cards you will need because of the rate the 1DC consumes data.. Sorry about the confusion.
I'm still considering it regardless, but I promised myself to wait for NAB before I purchase anything else.
I'm still considering it regardless, but I promised myself to wait for NAB before I purchase anything else.
AndreeOnline
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Yes, well.... somewhere in there, there's a limitation.
I don't think that the 1Dc in 4k mode is the camera you want to shoot wedding speeches with...
The S35 mode is still excellent though, and that's a great fallback when you think you have to shoot really long clips.
I don't think that the 1Dc in 4k mode is the camera you want to shoot wedding speeches with...
The S35 mode is still excellent though, and that's a great fallback when you think you have to shoot really long clips.
Pretty much agree with the guy on the clip and don't entirely get why a photographer is suddenly going to start pulling stills from video even if the shots are 4K or in the case of RED shot in RAW. You're compromising from a photographic stills perspective.
dustylense
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henri cartier-bresson is rolling over in his grave about now. 
dustylense
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And one from me traveling on a bus going about 35-40 Mph.
Capturing life and the moment in a say 1/100th of a second is the art. Letting a video run and scanning through 1,400 frames per minute is just plain lazy.
Capturing life and the moment in a say 1/100th of a second is the art. Letting a video run and scanning through 1,400 frames per minute is just plain lazy.
AndreeOnline
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Everybody is entitled to an opinion of course, but I don't get this way of thinking at all.
Why would it matter how the image is captured? Even a little bit?
Is it about skill? Mastery?
Don't you think there are situations where the most probable way to capture you vision is if you are allowed to use a stream of images?
True skill to me is using whatever tools you like/need to get your vision to the screen or onto paper.
I am genuinely interesting in knowing why you feel that way, if you feel strongly about it.
Cheers!
AndreeOnline
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I don't think it's so much that we're going to start shooting video all the time instead of photos, but rather that it is nice to have the opportunity to save a fleeting moment if you find a solid frame with a good expression in the stream.
Switching to photo mode is otherwise quick enough, since it's all in the same package.
If you had a second body that you needed to re-lens (if you don't buy double), or be forced to carry it hanging around your neck while you were shooting video with a dedicated camera... now that would probably cost you a shot or two.
dustylense
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I come from film. I spent years mastering film and print. Having everything done in camera like lighting and form. Special effects came at great cost. You had to know what you wanted and were doing. Film cameras didn't have delete buttons. Each frame cost something. But when you printed a contact sheet, one was forced to look at their mistakes. Thus, you were always learning and improving on your skills.
Do I hate digital? Heck no! But I am fortunate to have made the crossover and in doing so transfer methodology into the new medium. Do I miss watching prints come up under a red light in the developer? Heck yes. It was tactile and a process. A sort of zen feeling watching the magic happen. It was even down to the smell of the chemicals, the sound of the running water in the print wash and the sight of your image in a negative space projected upon the paper. I'm glad it was how I started and saddened by those who might never get to experience it. You really had to know what you wanted and how to get there. And trust me, there were more failures than successes. But the failures improved the skill level into greater successes, which led for clients to seek one out because you had what others didn't.....
Watch this. It's kinda fun.
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dustylense
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More from the moving bus. 1 camera and 1 lens. There are probably 40 shots I can share, but I'll leave you with these...
indiawilds
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I agree with dusty Henri cartier-bresson would be twisting and turning in his grave. To capture an image in what he called as Decisive moment, one has to be skilled enough, have anticipation, knowledge of subject behaviour. Today's photoshop generation, want to fix everything in post. People are forgetting the old saying "Prevention is better than cure". Do it right the first time, rework is never as good as getting it right the first time. Anyone who has gone through the grinding in the old still photography days using negative and slide films, would have sufficient understanding. I find people complaining of 12 stops of dynamic range. While shooting slides (still photography), 12 stops would have been luxury. The photographer had to understand the differences between bright and dark areas in the image and compose accordingly. Today people just want to press the button. So the craze for 16, 20 or whatever stops.
I think there are people who would prefer to just place 100 cameras and keep them running for 24 hours and then later pick up some footage.
There are situations where film would be better than a still image and vice-versa. I agree to the comment that one can go back to still photography mode and click the image. The challenge today is in the implementation of this shifting from video to stills. When I click while shooting video, it uses a shutter speed which I would not prefer. There should be some way of the camera choosing the shutter speed that I had set during stills mode. The metering also changes. In the video mode the metering is centre-weighted and not evaluative.
I think there are people who would prefer to just place 100 cameras and keep them running for 24 hours and then later pick up some footage.
There are situations where film would be better than a still image and vice-versa. I agree to the comment that one can go back to still photography mode and click the image. The challenge today is in the implementation of this shifting from video to stills. When I click while shooting video, it uses a shutter speed which I would not prefer. There should be some way of the camera choosing the shutter speed that I had set during stills mode. The metering also changes. In the video mode the metering is centre-weighted and not evaluative.