Can we make a sticky about editing DVCproHD?

yes.. barry stop saying MB/s your messing people up ! our brains arn't as big as yours.

I just added a column that converts the megabits to megabytes.
 
Barry_Green said:
100 megaBITS per second. 12.5 megabytes per second.
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Geez Loueeeezzzzzee!!! OK!!!

So, this rate, 12.5 Megabytes per seconds, relates to all hardware involved, yes? I was looking at the new lacie 2TB firewire drives, but was turned off by the 44 Megabytes per second rate, so you are saying that they would cover DVC-PRO HD, without a problem, right?

http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10351

BTW, how do you think these drives would stack-up? Are there anything comparable?
 
Jarred Land said:
Ok heres the start of the article.. its not done but the chart is the important part, the rest will be just me doing a bad job of me pretending how to write.

http://www.dvxuser.com/articles/hdedit/.
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Jarred, thanks or the article so far.
Let me add a little more info to it.
You say "MB/s means MegaBytes per second, Mbps means Megabits per second. The difference is a bit is about an 1/8th of a byte."

There is no "difference" between MB and Mb, however, 1 Byte consists of 8 Bit.
Exactly 8 and not 8.2 or 7.95. Knowing this relation makes it much easier IMHO to differentiate between MB/s (or MBps) and Mbps (or Mb/s) and no electronic calculator should be necessary to do the math. May I suggest to delete the word "about" in your sentence, to make these things a little bit clearer?
 
thanks PK.. MB and Mb are completely different, as one is associated with bytes and one with bits, the Bigger B means Bigger bits.

I said about, because some people bring the base 1024 all the way down to this level, and start complaining, just like people complain that there are only 9.5GB on thier 10GB empty hard drive.
 
Jarred Land said:
oh boy :)
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Quoted for truth.

Whatever moron thought it'd be cool to make a capital "B" be different from a little "b" was an idiot. :thumbdown

I usually type out the word; megabytes, megabits, gigabytes, gigabits to avoid confusion. :thumbsup:
 
Jarred Land said:
thanks PK.. MB and Mb are completely different, as one is associated with bytes and one with bits, the Bigger B means Bigger bits.

I said about, because some people bring the base 1024 all the way down to this level, and start complaining, just like people complain that there are only 9.5GB on thier 10GB empty hard drive.
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Can see your point. However, even then
1024 > 512 > 256 > 128 > 64 > 32 > 16 > 8
One Byte still is 8 Bits (by definition). Lets keep it straight and not mingle
things because people don't want to stick to the rules of math.
Hope this is not against any rules in here, though ;-)
 
I see your point and raise you a bit...

Its not necessarily math though that is the confusion.. a byte was always 8 bits. the NCR computers used 12 bit bytes way back in the day, and the actual definition of the word byte came from a unit containing 5 or 6 bits if I remember correctly. A better description of a byte would be to call what it actually is called, an octet, because just by the name alone you can figure out how many bits are in it.

now obviously the above doesn't really matter to us, or, well anything really, but its just one more stupid little fact to add to the pot.
 
This is a highly technical field. You've got to talk the talk of the trade so that everyone is in the same understanding.

bits has always been expressed with a small "b"
bytes has always been expressed with a large "B"

PK is right in that a MegaByte has a factor of 1024 and a Megabit has a factor of 8.

That has not changed in the course of the entire science. I recommend Charles Poynton's book Digital Video and HDTV which contains everything relevant to facts about HD's technical specs.
 
Jarred thanks!
I´ll stop asking now...
Of course only if you update the article once a week hehe...
Hmm, IBC is coming, if Avid won't let Pinnacles Liquid Edition edit DVCproHD I finally gotta change my editing app (and maybe the OS too...)
My No.1 wish for the IBC: HVX/mini35 combo...
Big Boys want Big Toys, I guess...
 
yeah that would be cool.. but im sure people will be happy enough to see the HVX that theHVX with mini35 can wait a few weeks.

And i dont know how long it will take for liquid to get their own DVCproHD codec, they seem extremely slow on that sort of thing, i mean they arent even on the 24pA bandwagon yet.
 
Last year the P+S guys already had an XL2/mini35, so maybe there is a chance...
For Liquid: I love the Software (maybe because I'm used to it since the FAST days...), but this oldschool "one product - many names" strategy kills it for me.
Of course Apple's All-In-Wonder FCP-HD exists due to there only-one-hardware advantage, but with the upcoming OS for Intel procs there will be a lot going on in the market , i guess...
Anyway, if there's anything new about the HVX at IBC - I'll take pictures...
 
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