Camera's used in the top 10

its muddy and mushy and yucky because of the compression for lossfest. the full res version looks really cool.
 
Ha hA! Didn't mean to start a fire under your RED Kholi. :) True, it's comparing apples and oranges.

My point was only that working with "footage" such as the series of still frames from the D90 was a real eye-opener to me, and could be a cheap and easy way to "train your eyes" to see images differently in terms of color depth and resolution.
 
To set the record, I have no experience with the D90, so I'm obviously going by what I'm seeing in this festival. A brilliant friend of mine told me that if you compress your footage minus the letterbox on the top and bottom, raised your bit rate... you could have had a much sharper image and still get it in under 50MB. Please, let me somehow see the footage in all its glory, so I can stop talking through my...
 
i certainly will. and if viewers are taking perceived image quality into consideration for a fest with a 50mb limit on file sizes, what are you gonna do? :) personally, i am completely satisfied with "Mo/Pho"s reception in this fest. it's already exceeded my expectations. and honestly I would like to see the prizes go to filmmakers that truly need that gear. I don't. I think the guys that did Acceptance deserve the recognition that first place would bring, and the boost some new gear would provide. if I were to win something, the honor would be amazing, but i'd likely donate the actual gear to someone up and coming that I believe in. i've done that before -- donating funds and gear to aspiring filmmakers that could use a little nurturing.

besides, if you've read the latest news in my thread, you'll know that i've already received a very valuable "award" that will just push me and my work further.
 
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A brilliant friend of mine told me that if you compress your footage minus the letterbox on the top and bottom, raised your bit rate... you could have had a much sharper image and still get it in under 50MB.

Yeah, I unfortunately figured out how to do that just a day too late. My HD version, and even the standard version are now minus the letterboxes, and look much better with smaller file sizes.
 
Yeah, I unfortunately figured out how to do that just a day too late. My HD version, and even the standard version are now minus the letterboxes, and look much better with smaller file sizes.

Its amazing how much data those two black bars take away to degrade the overall image.
 
I would say that the D90 could be even better in low light.

Agreed. But that means that one must buy, rent, or be loaned the D90. If I had my choice, I would have loved to give it a whirl.

But, the dvx is all I have besides a vx-2000, and I'd rather not shoot short films on that.
 
Agreed. But that means that one must buy, rent, or be loaned the D90. If I had my choice, I would have loved to give it a whirl.

But, the dvx is all I have besides a vx-2000, and I'd rather not shoot short films on that.

you would not have been able to shoot your film the way you did with the D90. too much horizontal movement.
 
Still a big problem, eh? What sort of motion artifacts does it yield?

skew. the only way you can pan horizontally and avoid skew is to anchor the move to a subject, like an actor. if you look at the kiss in my short, it's the only time the camera moves horizontally, and the background is probably skewing but your attention is on the actor(s), who are not, because they are anchored to the center of the frame.
 
skew. the only way you can pan horizontally and avoid skew is to anchor the move to a subject, like an actor. if you look at the kiss in my short, it's the only time the camera moves horizontally, and the background is probably skewing but your attention is on the actor(s), who are not, because they are anchored to the center of the frame.

Ah, I see. Just watched that shot again (happened to have the video open anyway) and I see what you mean. I noticed the first time I saw it that that shot was one of the only ones to move horizontally in a pan-type motion.

Very interesting.
 
That skewing is the same effect you get with CMOS and 3MOS cameras from Sony and one of the newer Panasonic cameras, not yet released.

Actually, I just checked... the D90 uses a CMOS chip.
 
i certainly will. and if viewers are taking perceived image quality into consideration for a fest with a 50mb limit on file sizes, what are you gonna do? :) personally, i am completely satisfied with "Mo/Pho"s reception in this fest. it's already exceeded my expectations. and honestly I would like to see the prizes go to filmmakers that truly need that gear. I don't. I think the guys that did Acceptance deserve the recognition that first place would bring, and the boost some new gear would provide. if I were to win something, the honor would be amazing, but i'd likely donate the actual gear to someone up and coming that I believe in. i've done that before -- donating funds and gear to aspiring filmmakers that could use a little nurturing.

pay it forward...

Yeah, I unfortunately figured out how to do that just a day too late. My HD version, and even the standard version are now minus the letterboxes, and look much better with smaller file sizes.

Norm, wanna share what you learned? :)
 
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Yeah, I'm very skeptical of CMOS sensors. The technology keeps improving, but it seems that a number of specific cameras keep running into certain motion-related issues because of rolling shutter and other issues. This actually makes me weary of certain cameras that I would LOVE to invest in. They all have their weak points, as does the dvx, and they must be learned and worked around (or assimilated into the workflow in an accepting manner).

Let's just say that if I had the opportunity, there are a lot of cameras I would love to give good, thorough trial runs. I have a lot of ideas for what I'd do with each.
 
Acceptance HVX200
Again D90
Ano Sony Z1
Collections RED ONE
Last to Canon XHA1
Lost at Sea DVX100b
Melody HVX200
Model D90
Placbo HVX200
Stupendous DVX100b
 
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