Camera move...in movie The Fighting Temptations

I just watched the DVD for the movie "The Fighting Temptations". The opening scene starts out with a Aerial shot from a helicopter with the wescam or similiar stabilizer camera flying over a wooded area with a white church being the focal point of where the camera is taking you.

Once the helicopter gets close to the church the camera begins to pan down with a slow push as well.

Then it goes to what looks like a Crane shot that continues to drop down and still pushing in slowly. Once the camera is almost to street level, it looks they used a stedicam move and walked right up to 2 kid actors sitting on the steps of the church talking. There were NO dissolves but 1 complete shot.

Now unless they did some serious frame blending and effects how did they go from the Helicopter, to a Crane, to a Stedicam in what looks like 1 complete shot?

I watched the scene several times and focused on the background to see if I noticed anything that twitched or jumped to the next edit but I couldn't pick up anything. It really looked like one complete shot.
 
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I got it! A Steadicam operator with a jet pack. Simple ;D
 
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Simple composites and CG work. If you couldnt detect it, then they did it right!
 
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Actually you're probably not too far off. Shots like this can be accomplished by a steadicam operator, riding in the helicopter, who then (carefully!!!) steps off the helicopter onto a crane platform, which lowers him to the ground and he then continues with walking.

I've seen behind-the-scenes where they did one of those through-the-window shots, where the steadicam operator walked up to the window and then they somehow smoothly handed the camera to a guy inside the room, who handheld-continued the shot...
 
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How could I get my hands on production notes or copy of the treatment to see how they did this. Is that stuff available for the public?
 
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Hehe, that's why it's called "Movie Magic"-- just like magicians, they never reveal their secrets (well, almost never anyway). :)

Good luck anyhow!
 
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I'm telling you...

It's a combination of several different shots composited together.
 
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Stepping out of a helicopter on to a crane?...hmm a dangerously/unlikely situation but still a possiblity. Heres two others.

1)Some speacial steadicams rigs also have something similar to the gyro stablized camera systems mounted in front of helicopters. The steadicam operator could have had one of these and was riding inside the helicopter. The helicopter glides in on the arc you described then the operator stepped out when it lans and continued his shot walking.

2)Once in a while they will actually strap two cables to the back of a steadicam operator and suspend him from a enormous crane. With the help of the two stablizing cables and his steadicam rig they are able to make huge swooping moves and come gently to the ground at which point someone walks in behind the operator just as hes coming smoothly towards the ground and unhooks him as the operator is walking on - finishing the shot.

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I,ve seen those gyros noiesy as all get out but they hold the camera perfectly still. 8)
 
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I have scene similar to what you are describing (minus dialogue). They could shoot the scene backwards (using a reversing mag) and start with the helicopter landed. It then takes off. The footage is played forward in the optical printer, and now you have the push in you describe.

My guess is that in this case, it was just several shots carefully stitched together.

I have heard of a steadicam op doing a step onto a crane from the ground, or a step off of a crane onto the ground, but never a step off from a helicopter to a crane. That would be mind-blowingly dangerous, plus it could never be pulled off with precision in timing (un-strapping from the helicopter, slowly, and carefully stepping down onto a small crane platform (they are small if you have never been on one) strapping onto the crane, then doing the shot.)

I would say that the chances of that move being pulled off properly are about as good as Justin and Janet getting their own reality TV series on CBS, produced by MTV ;)

Kevin Zanit
 
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john is most likely right about the stitched shots, ive watched a trillion and 32 films where the camera flys out of a house, and up an office building, in a window and down the hall, and into the parking ramp into some guys car..(or somthing similar), and they alwyas use carefully planned seperate camera shots for each area within reason, and then stuch them together to make them seemless. very seldom is it actually one take, and never somthing so extravagant when it is.
 
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My guess is stitched together. That is how they did the opening shot to the movie "the birdcage". Helicopter shot over the ocean, flying towards miami, up to a hotel, and into a lobby.
 
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This shoot is probably very similar to the opening shot of Boggie Nights. I know in that one the operator have to step off from the hellicopter, actually like Barry said.
The one in Boggie Nights was awesome. It´s a very long take and after moving around from the exteriors goes into the interiors of the disco to meet the burt reynolds and friends.
But if you watched very slow you will slightly notice when the operator put his feet on the ground.
 
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Hi!
I think they could have done this shot with a mini tele helicopter. Those ones radio controlled. I haven't seen that film but it could be an idea. I know this kind of helicopter is used in many movies.
Zab
 
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