C300's overcrank?

Bern Caughey

Bern Caughey

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How do users like the C300's overcrank? Is it something you use often, & does it cut well with it's 24P?

We do a fair amount of 48 fps for B-Roll, & I'm a bit concerned by some of the online examples I've seen, but am holding judgement until I thoroughly test, especially as most everything else about the cam I love.

Thanks,
Bern
 
The 720p resolution mode of the C300 is quite highly detailed, and may be more detailed than a Canon DSLR in 1080 mode (but I haven't seen any empirical tests done). I don't use overcrank very often, but I did use the function on two shots on the feature I just shot with the C300, and they look great. The shots hold up very well when cut with 1080p24 footage. The one thing to watch out for is aliasing, which can be significantly more pronounced in 720 than 1080. But if you just think about your composition beforehand and look out for aliasing-inducing objects in your frame, you should be just fine!

Also, we're using Instand HD to uprez the files to 1080; it works extremely well and really helps the resolutions cut together even better.
 
I used over cranking a lot in an event video recently and I'd say the detail at 720p is still very good. The biggest downside is that the conversion process on vimeo seems to do a much better job when you upload 1080p than it does 720p so the compressed version online loses a lot of detail that's retained in the original clips.

https://vimeo.com/44519482

Paul
 
cowpunk52 said:
The one thing to watch out for is aliasing, which can be significantly more pronounced in 720 than 1080. But if you just think about your composition beforehand and look out for aliasing-inducing objects in your frame, you should be just fine!.
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Aliasing is my concern...resolution not so much.

Almost everything I shoot is multicam, & sometimes we field additional teams who will also need matching cameras, so the final decicision could get a bit pricey. Unfortunately telling team members which shots to avoid isn't always practical.

I appreciate the responses, & any more that might come, but know it comes down to testing. Canon's offered a C300 for a week, but I want to secure a FS700 to compare, as we could field twice as many for the same costs. If I was a solo shooter I'd already own a C300.

Best,
Bern
 
They C300 overcrank in 720P is the best I've seen out so far in 720P. Still sharp (not as sharp as 1080P tho) but I have not had any aliasing issues and I shoot overcrank alot. It really is more than acceptable. Like Cowpunk said, instant HD upsize and also mixing with other 1080P clips in a 1080P works a treat.
 
If higher framerates factor highly into your decision then I have to think the FS-700 is the way to go. I used 720p60 on the C300 a few times on my last feature and it looks pretty good (certainly leaps and bounds better than any of the Canon DSLRs), but it's no comparison to the overcranking options on the Sony. If you're dealing mostly with concert and event type stuff (just assuming based on your multicam comment) then you aren't really taking advantage of the C300s biggest advantages (C-log, improved dynamic range, softer highlight rolloff, etc), and you still get the lightweight codec in the FS700. The C300 is much better handheld, but with the cost difference you could easily rig the FS700s up.

The C300 is my favorite (affordable) camera on the market to shoot with at the moment, but I think the Sony would be a better option in a multicam event situation. For docs/features/tv the C300 would be my choice.
 
In that case the C300 is amazing as long as you can deal with 60p at best through a solid (resolves about as much as a 5DmkII or 7D in 1080p) 720p mode. The C300 is an absolute joy to work with, both in production and in post.
 
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