Wait, are you saying that the EVF is better than all of those cameras? I have owned several Canon XL series cameras, an XH-A1 as well as DVX100 and HVX200 and my recollection is that they weren't this bad. Mind you....I am also talking about the entire EVF assembly. They were definitely more robust than this and the magnification was better as well as some of them being articulating to some degree. Never used the EX1 so I cannot comment. Regardless, something better than this would be nice.
C100: C100 overpriced?
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Wait, are you saying that the EVF is better than all of those cameras? I have owned several Canon XL series cameras, an XH-A1 as well as DVX100 and HVX200 and my recollection is that they weren't this bad. Mind you....I am also talking about the entire EVF assembly. They were definitely more robust than this and the magnification was better as well as some of them being articulating to some degree. Never used the EX1 so I cannot comment. Regardless, something better than this would be nice.
No disrespect, but I don't understand why someone who has made, "millions" would buy the prosumer C100 and not an Alexa, Red, or C500.
Even an Alexa and accessories is chump change for someone like you.
If I had that kind of cash I would surely get something top of the line; or at least met broadcast specs out of the box.
Andrius Simutis
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$2,000,000 / 20 years = $100,000 per year. That doesn't mean you have millions in cash on hand.
indiawilds
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And there is cost of Cameras, lenses, other accessories, travel, investments....
And any kind hearted soul will help his friends moisten their parched throats with a few drops of beer. Some may choose a barrel of wine... So where is the money?
dustylense
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A bit higher than that but you have the right idea.
Primrose. It takes lots of time to make that money. I drive a minivan. I don't need an Alexa. If I want to shoot Alexa, I would rent it anyway. But if I bought Aexas, I would be broke....My record year, shooting architecture, is $690,000. Architecture...Like this:
Take a guess on how many lights I used to light up this scene?
Darren Levine
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assuming bob barker rules: 14
David W. Jones
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My take on the film business... It's a business!
I don't spend X amount on a camera just because I have that amount of cash in my bank account, or because I want that camera. Running a successful business means making the right business choices, especially when it comes to gear purchases. Just because someone can afford a new Alexa and Optimo lens, doesn't mean that it is the correct gear choice for the situation at hand..... You wouldn't take a 2 seat Ferrari to pick up a family of 4 with luggage from the airport would you?
All the best!
Dave
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We just picked up a C100 for a year long doc with a very decent budget. Using it almost entirely with the Ninja 2 shooting Prores which frankly looks astonishing. I had a RED for a couple of years, and have used just about every camera out there - and to be clear, I thought the C100 looked over priced when it came out too - but for this job, with a lot of running and gunning, lots of lightweight shooting (I'm shooting in a harness with no other gear in sight for much of it) it may be the perfect camera. It's light, flexible (NDs), takes nearly every lens we own, and the image is stunning at 30p (this is a US broadcast doc). In short, I sort of hate Canon for limiting this little beast (crummy internal codec, no 60p), but at the same time thank them for creating just what we need for this project.
(PS, yes the camera costs more than a 5d3, but remember, we paid more for the first XL1 than for the C100, not even factoring in inflation. It's a steel, in that light, for what it does.)
(PS, yes the camera costs more than a 5d3, but remember, we paid more for the first XL1 than for the C100, not even factoring in inflation. It's a steel, in that light, for what it does.)
dustylense
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LOL. Bob barker!
Try 4. One of them being this:
My point is that you don't always "need" the biggest and greatest. When you learn to do more with less, then you become not only a competent artist, but a competent businessman/woman.
So when people think the C100 or the C300 is overpriced? By what standard? Blackmagic cameras? Gh2's or Gh3's? Have you seen the issues with BMC's? Too many to list. But if you can make it work then by all means. The C100 is the jack of all traits and master of none. Out of the box it is ready to shoot pretty much any assignment so long as the receiving end is comfortable with AVCHD (which on the C100 is very robust). Need the extra push, then attach the ninja. "MOST" other cameras need XLR devices, ND, some from of exposure tool, stupid battery solutions (BMC), cages, grips, and cables...Oh my!.
And I will say it again (and again and again and again). Canons just plain work. I've had more digital Canons than digits on my hands and NONE of them have ever failed. NONE of them had to be shipped back.
Now lets play again... How many lights used ?:
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dustylense
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bingo!
dustylense
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How many lights?::::
(10 years ago with film on a 4x5 I would have had 4 assistants light this up with maybe up to 15 to 20 light sources. I shot this alone)....
(10 years ago with film on a 4x5 I would have had 4 assistants light this up with maybe up to 15 to 20 light sources. I shot this alone)....
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^that's "practically" impossible to tell.
dustylense
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Well I left you with a hint of the old way....
dustylense
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2 Paul C Buff Einsteins connected to the vagabond lithium battery. Paint the scene moving the lights around and put it together with PS. About 15 exposures.
slidemaster
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Dusty I love your work. GREAT JOB with the lighting!!
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Oh, with all the practical lights in the shot, it was a play on words. Industry puns are the best puns. =)
Lustgarten
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6 or more
Darren Levine
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echem.... bob barker rules based on practicals as well, seeing as it was your decision whether to use them or not to use them
and ballparking the number of lights is about as simple as counting the shadow angles and such.
and ballparking the number of lights is about as simple as counting the shadow angles and such.