C100: C100 Noise Reduction Levels

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What levels are you guys setting NR to especially in canon log? I found the reduction in sharpness to be too big for me over 6, I'm most likely going to settle for 4. What about you guys?
 
I have mine set to NR 4 also for the time being. I'm sure this and allot of setting will change in the next few months. :)
 
mtnski said:
Do you leave it on all the time or only activate above certain ISO?
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I have not done thorough tests on NR so I'm just blindly setting it at 4. I'm sure changing it's value with different CP's could
affect it also. I just got the c100 so hopefully I can do some tests soon. Maybe someone more informed on the c100 can chime in.
 
I think I'll have it at 4 all the time. I feel like its more important for normalizing cannon log rather than controlling noise from iso.
 
stevedocmaker said:
I haven't had time to experiment much, but I do know that if you turn it to 0 C-log gets noisy.
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Are you black balancing? Shooting in the dark? The bottom line for Canon log is even though its extremely clean at high ISO's it needs some light in there. It was never intended to take into a dark place and just crank it to 20,000.
 
This C300 camera is good and people boast that they need zero lights. However, we definitely need some amount of lights for this camera to expose well.

I found that for the C300 Black balancing (ABB) is the key as Noel says. In one scene, I had ISO 320 set and I was searching for the leopard for several hours. When I finally could find it, the light levels had gone down. I quickly setup my tripod, cranked up the ISO to 5000 and started filming. I regret it because I didn't do black balancing and the noise is higher. Unfortunately the black balancing takes time and in wildlife it becomes a difficult proposition. However, I try to do black balancing all the time. At ISO 20000, I tried filming in moonlight, but this camera needs some more light. I have used torch light and also spot light to film nocturnal behaviour of leopards, jackals, porcupines etc. This behaviour cannot be seen in daylight. If the torch light or spot light doesn't fill the entire frame, then you find lot of noise in the dark areas and that makes the viewing experience unpleasant. Else, the noise will not be noticed by the viewers.

Because of the C300 I spend more time in the field even at low light and no light. I feel it is making me a better naturalist as I am observing behaviours which I hadn't seen earlier.

Noel Evans said:
Are you black balancing? Shooting in the dark? The bottom line for Canon log is even though its extremely clean at high ISO's it needs some light in there. It was never intended to take into a dark place and just crank it to 20,000.
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Interesting thread. We are considering the C100 as we do a lot of low light shooting and I don't like taking the XF cameras above 3db. 6db can bd used with Neat Video. 12db is a real push and absolutely needs proper camera profiles in Neat video to do a good job, and even then I'm grimacing at the results.

We also never liked taking the 5D2 above 1250, though 1600 & 2000 in a push were OK. Same with the D800.

So, the C100 is definitely on our radar.

Out of the box, how good / bad is the C100 really? If you've shot with either the XF300 or XF100 cameras perhaps you could give some insight in to the low light /noise characteristics, and especially where the ISO ranges coincide with the db gain on the XF series.

Thanks!
 
Exact said:
Out of the box, how good / bad is the C100 really?
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Looking forward to some replies to your question about comparing it to other cameras but...

...another way to look at it: if the C100/C300 aren't good enough, what will you turn to then?

It's my impression that they are pretty much state of the art right now. That doesn't mean that they are noise free though.

What I find interesting is that even though noise can show up, my C100 still retains exceptional detail and tonality. This is something totally different from a 5Dmk2 or 5Dmk3, where you lose the picture as noise increases.
 
indiawilds said:
This C300 camera is good and people boast that they need zero lights. However, we definitely need some amount of lights for this camera to expose well.

I found that for the C300 Black balancing (ABB) is the key as Noel says. In one scene, I had ISO 320 set and I was searching for the leopard for several hours. When I finally could find it, the light levels had gone down. I quickly setup my tripod, cranked up the ISO to 5000 and started filming. I regret it because I didn't do black balancing and the noise is higher. Unfortunately the black balancing takes time and in wildlife it becomes a difficult proposition. However, I try to do black balancing all the time. At ISO 20000, I tried filming in moonlight, but this camera needs some more light. I have used torch light and also spot light to film nocturnal behaviour of leopards, jackals, porcupines etc. This behaviour cannot be seen in daylight. If the torch light or spot light doesn't fill the entire frame, then you find lot of noise in the dark areas and that makes the viewing experience unpleasant. Else, the noise will not be noticed by the viewers.

Because of the C300 I spend more time in the field even at low light and no light. I feel it is making me a better naturalist as I am observing behaviours which I hadn't seen earlier.
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Very constructive comments. Thanks!
 
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