byob
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J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: byob
Hi Woodson
The following is as always IMHO. These grabs, alhough nicely composed seem out of sorts in the exposure area. Something is not jiving for my eyes. Below are two example of your grabs that I increased the 'Brightness/Contrast' ratio as well as some minor Color Correction on the woman in the kitchen. There was so much RED in the kitchen I basically cooled it down and muted it a little.
Maybe my monitor is seeing things differently but I see a Haze of some kind (almost like Gain or a sleight overexposure) over these grabs.
One thing I learbned recently was about 'monitor calibration' and it helped me immmensley.
Also, these look a little 'stretched'; what settings are you using in your template?
Anyway, I tinkered with the imagery to make it pop a little more and it is in my humblest of opinions I do so.
The comps are very nice.
Hi Woodson
The following is as always IMHO. These grabs, alhough nicely composed seem out of sorts in the exposure area. Something is not jiving for my eyes. Below are two example of your grabs that I increased the 'Brightness/Contrast' ratio as well as some minor Color Correction on the woman in the kitchen. There was so much RED in the kitchen I basically cooled it down and muted it a little.
Maybe my monitor is seeing things differently but I see a Haze of some kind (almost like Gain or a sleight overexposure) over these grabs.
One thing I learbned recently was about 'monitor calibration' and it helped me immmensley.
Also, these look a little 'stretched'; what settings are you using in your template?
Anyway, I tinkered with the imagery to make it pop a little more and it is in my humblest of opinions I do so.
The comps are very nice.
HansK
Veteran
Re: byob
The composition of the shots look good. The 2nd and 3rd shots might be balanced a little better if the camera was aimed more to the left to center the action/characters.
As for the colors, the images need color correction. They appear soft and gray. You might try bringing up your black level to darken the darks. Bring the white down a bit to lighten.
Here's an example:
The composition of the shots look good. The 2nd and 3rd shots might be balanced a little better if the camera was aimed more to the left to center the action/characters.
As for the colors, the images need color correction. They appear soft and gray. You might try bringing up your black level to darken the darks. Bring the white down a bit to lighten.
Here's an example:
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: byob
Where is the Master Ped on your camera set?
Where is the Master Ped on your camera set?
Chris Messineo
Veteran
Re: byob
I totally agree with the earlier posters.
The composition is nice, but the grain and haze is off the charts.
Did you light these scenes or where you using what there was in the space?
Chris
I totally agree with the earlier posters.
The composition is nice, but the grain and haze is off the charts.
Did you light these scenes or where you using what there was in the space?
Chris
BLUESPIDER
DVXuser Ninja
Re: byob
I thought it was a promist filter. Woodson, what was your master ped set anyway? One thing I do like about it is that your cast doesn't look like highschool kids. I hate seeing student films with a highschool looking kid playing a doctor or something. keep it up!
I thought it was a promist filter. Woodson, what was your master ped set anyway? One thing I do like about it is that your cast doesn't look like highschool kids. I hate seeing student films with a highschool looking kid playing a doctor or something. keep it up!
Aaron Lavinsky
Well-known member
Re: byob
i thought it as going to be Bring Your Own Beer, like all of my crazy highschool partys are...haha
i thought it as going to be Bring Your Own Beer, like all of my crazy highschool partys are...haha
Woodson
Well-known member
Re: byob
That you all for comments and suggestions... I really need them...
When we shot the shutter speed was on 1/24, and The Filters included ... Polarizer, 1/8 black warm pro mist, 1/4 black pro mist, .6 ND grad, tobacco, and a skyfire. And yes we did use lighting, 3-4 lights in the kitchen scenes, and with the person on the phone. In the big room where all the characters are, I've used a Scott Billups method, by going to Home Depot buying two big plastic pipes (not sure the right word for it) got a white bed sheet and stapled them. Put that hanging from the wall and had lights behind it. Kind of like the parachute thing, if anyone read Billups's book. Maybe myself and the cinematographe didn't know what we were doing, we both amaturs to this, or maybe the lights sucked cause they were from the film group, and they get rented out almost everyday, very used.
Also shot with the 16:9 adapter.
I flaged the clips in Vegas to 16:9, so they turned to be like that. I dunno maybe I did something wrong. The setting I'm using are 23.976, 24 NTSC Widescreen.
I'm starting to play with color correction, I need to fix I know, just starting to learn how. Any tips let me know. Thank you.
That you all for comments and suggestions... I really need them...
When we shot the shutter speed was on 1/24, and The Filters included ... Polarizer, 1/8 black warm pro mist, 1/4 black pro mist, .6 ND grad, tobacco, and a skyfire. And yes we did use lighting, 3-4 lights in the kitchen scenes, and with the person on the phone. In the big room where all the characters are, I've used a Scott Billups method, by going to Home Depot buying two big plastic pipes (not sure the right word for it) got a white bed sheet and stapled them. Put that hanging from the wall and had lights behind it. Kind of like the parachute thing, if anyone read Billups's book. Maybe myself and the cinematographe didn't know what we were doing, we both amaturs to this, or maybe the lights sucked cause they were from the film group, and they get rented out almost everyday, very used.
Also shot with the 16:9 adapter.
I flaged the clips in Vegas to 16:9, so they turned to be like that. I dunno maybe I did something wrong. The setting I'm using are 23.976, 24 NTSC Widescreen.
I'm starting to play with color correction, I need to fix I know, just starting to learn how. Any tips let me know. Thank you.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: byob
Did you shoot 16:9 Adapter 'Letterboxed' IN-CAMERA? I think you are supossed to shoot 4:3 with that accessory.
I think the LIGHTING style is fine its just that it appears the exposure and pedestal are wacked up.
Did you shoot 16:9 Adapter 'Letterboxed' IN-CAMERA? I think you are supossed to shoot 4:3 with that accessory.
I think the LIGHTING style is fine its just that it appears the exposure and pedestal are wacked up.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: byob
This was done by 'eye' but there is a better way after you do this:
In VEGAS open up the 'VIDEOSCOPES' and check out the Waveforms. I am not the expert YET, but the orginal image has it no where near where it should be. After making this adjustment it becomes alot closer to where you need it.
This was 'eyeballed' using BRIGHT/CONTRAST and COLOR BALANCE and COLOR CORRECTOR. (To remove all the RED) with a slight DESATURATION.
This was done by 'eye' but there is a better way after you do this:
In VEGAS open up the 'VIDEOSCOPES' and check out the Waveforms. I am not the expert YET, but the orginal image has it no where near where it should be. After making this adjustment it becomes alot closer to where you need it.
This was 'eyeballed' using BRIGHT/CONTRAST and COLOR BALANCE and COLOR CORRECTOR. (To remove all the RED) with a slight DESATURATION.
Thistlebop
Well-known member
Re: byob
Nice composition and geez you sure know alot of people hehe. Either that or you must be wealthy to be able to employ so many actors.
--Bop
Nice composition and geez you sure know alot of people hehe. Either that or you must be wealthy to be able to employ so many actors.
--Bop
Thistlebop
Well-known member
Re: byob
John, you really did a super color correction to that one pic with the woman with the red dress and the checkered tablecloth.
Holy-Burgers
--Bop
John, you really did a super color correction to that one pic with the woman with the red dress and the checkered tablecloth.
Holy-Burgers
--Bop
Re: byob
Ok, well there's something terribly wrong if those grabs are what you're getting out of the camera. How were you setting your exposures? Because this looks like you either underexposed and/or had your scene file setting royally messed up. Give us all your scene file settings too, because there is *no* default scene file that would look this bad. Yes, John stretched out your histograms, but that's no real fix for the problem--it just brings up noise and everything starts to get posterized. Your captured video should have good blacks, whites, be well-exposed and have good color saturation. Unless you messed up the grabs when resizing them, then the problem needs to be fixed at the shooting stage.
Ok, well there's something terribly wrong if those grabs are what you're getting out of the camera. How were you setting your exposures? Because this looks like you either underexposed and/or had your scene file setting royally messed up. Give us all your scene file settings too, because there is *no* default scene file that would look this bad. Yes, John stretched out your histograms, but that's no real fix for the problem--it just brings up noise and everything starts to get posterized. Your captured video should have good blacks, whites, be well-exposed and have good color saturation. Unless you messed up the grabs when resizing them, then the problem needs to be fixed at the shooting stage.
Woodson
Well-known member
Re: byob
[quote author=Thistlebop link=board=Clips;num=1100769165;start=15#15 date=11/18/04 at 15:01:20]Nice composition and geez you sure know alot of people hehe. Either that or you must be wealthy to be able to employ so many actors.
--Bop
[/quote]
Thanks,no not wealthy at all, but I did afford to feed them.
[quote author=Thistlebop link=board=Clips;num=1100769165;start=15#15 date=11/18/04 at 15:01:20]Nice composition and geez you sure know alot of people hehe. Either that or you must be wealthy to be able to employ so many actors.
--Bop
[/quote]
Thanks,no not wealthy at all, but I did afford to feed them.
Woodson
Well-known member
Re: byob
[quote author=Barry_S link=board=Clips;num=1100769165;start=15#17 date=11/18/04 at 15:30:03]Ok, well there's something terribly wrong if those grabs are what you're getting out of the camera. How were you setting your exposures? Because this looks like you either underexposed and/or had your scene file setting royally messed up. Give us all your scene file settings too, because there is *no* default scene file that would look this bad. Yes, John stretched out your histograms, but that's no real fix for the problem--it just brings up noise and everything starts to get posterized. Your captured video should have good blacks, whites, be well-exposed and have good color saturation. Unless you messed up the grabs when resizing them, then the problem needs to be fixed at the shooting stage.[/quote]
Are you talking about my setting in Vegas?
[quote author=Barry_S link=board=Clips;num=1100769165;start=15#17 date=11/18/04 at 15:30:03]Ok, well there's something terribly wrong if those grabs are what you're getting out of the camera. How were you setting your exposures? Because this looks like you either underexposed and/or had your scene file setting royally messed up. Give us all your scene file settings too, because there is *no* default scene file that would look this bad. Yes, John stretched out your histograms, but that's no real fix for the problem--it just brings up noise and everything starts to get posterized. Your captured video should have good blacks, whites, be well-exposed and have good color saturation. Unless you messed up the grabs when resizing them, then the problem needs to be fixed at the shooting stage.[/quote]
Are you talking about my setting in Vegas?