Burining time and date to tape
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In menu settings, I thought the OSD (or certain portions of it, including date/time) could be set to record to tape. Don't have my camera next to me, so I can't search right now, but it seems really weird that they wouldn't enable that.
And to help with anything downstream, it might also be helpful to set your time code to match time-of-day and let it go in free run. That way the TC will match the clock.
The other option is to record to an external device using the A/V outputs from the camera, and turn time and date display on in the OSD settings.
And to help with anything downstream, it might also be helpful to set your time code to match time-of-day and let it go in free run. That way the TC will match the clock.
The other option is to record to an external device using the A/V outputs from the camera, and turn time and date display on in the OSD settings.
So I looked through the menus on my 100a and, sure enough, there is no way to record the display in-camera.
I'm not sure what the tech guy meant by "It also depends on the deck used as to whether it will show up or not." If you use the composite video/stereo audio outs from the DVX (the RCA connections), anything on your OSD will be sent out on that signal, assuming you have OSD Video Out turned on.
I'm not sure what the tech guy meant by "It also depends on the deck used as to whether it will show up or not." If you use the composite video/stereo audio outs from the DVX (the RCA connections), anything on your OSD will be sent out on that signal, assuming you have OSD Video Out turned on.
Mike Parker
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I'm an NCRA Certified Legal Video Specialist and I shoot depositions, independent medical exams and site inspections for the legal profession. I own a Panasonic DVX100a and a Canon XL1s which I use for legal video.
If you need to burn in date and time on the video, the best way to do it with a DVX is to use a Sony GV-D1000 DV VCR (aka "clamshell") as a second deck while recording a depo, or afterwards. Take the Y/C connector of the DVX and connect it to the Y/C (S-VHS) input on the clamshell. Also connect both audio cables. Go into the menu settings and select DISPLAY and then select DATE & TIME. Date and Time will then be output to the tape in the clamshell. Unlike using FireWire to the clamshell for backup, you'll lose device control from the DVX to the clamshell and have to roll it manually. The other option is to make a dub from the DVX after the depo is over, but that doubles the amount of time you'll have to invest. Another less expensive option is to use the Y/C out to a Sony VRD-MC3 or MC5 DVD burner and date and time will be burning on to the DVD.
Frankly, it's a real PITA and I do not understand why Panasonic omitted this frequently-used feature. I ended up buying a Canon XL1s just for those times when I need to burn in date and time. Canon's approach to this is much more complicated than Sony's for their PD150 and PD170, but it does work.
When shooting depos, ALWAYS record both a video backup and an audio recording (either cassette or digital) for the court reporter. NO EXCEPTIONS. You must be able to provide , under any and all circumstances, a complete video and audio record of the legal proceeding. If you have a problem with a bad tape or DVD and haven't backed up, you will NEVER work for that court reporting agency or law firm again.
Mike Parker, clvs
If you need to burn in date and time on the video, the best way to do it with a DVX is to use a Sony GV-D1000 DV VCR (aka "clamshell") as a second deck while recording a depo, or afterwards. Take the Y/C connector of the DVX and connect it to the Y/C (S-VHS) input on the clamshell. Also connect both audio cables. Go into the menu settings and select DISPLAY and then select DATE & TIME. Date and Time will then be output to the tape in the clamshell. Unlike using FireWire to the clamshell for backup, you'll lose device control from the DVX to the clamshell and have to roll it manually. The other option is to make a dub from the DVX after the depo is over, but that doubles the amount of time you'll have to invest. Another less expensive option is to use the Y/C out to a Sony VRD-MC3 or MC5 DVD burner and date and time will be burning on to the DVD.
Frankly, it's a real PITA and I do not understand why Panasonic omitted this frequently-used feature. I ended up buying a Canon XL1s just for those times when I need to burn in date and time. Canon's approach to this is much more complicated than Sony's for their PD150 and PD170, but it does work.
When shooting depos, ALWAYS record both a video backup and an audio recording (either cassette or digital) for the court reporter. NO EXCEPTIONS. You must be able to provide , under any and all circumstances, a complete video and audio record of the legal proceeding. If you have a problem with a bad tape or DVD and haven't backed up, you will NEVER work for that court reporting agency or law firm again.
Mike Parker, clvs
Canon XH-A1
Canon XH-A1
I also have the XH-A1 and it does burn to tape, but the tech from canon said it may not show up depending on which deck is used.
I back up with the sony VDR-MC5 and to hard drive. I want to hang on to the 100b, I just have to find a way to make it work.
I'll look into your suggestions on the deck you mentioned.
Mark
Canon XH-A1
I also have the XH-A1 and it does burn to tape, but the tech from canon said it may not show up depending on which deck is used.
I back up with the sony VDR-MC5 and to hard drive. I want to hang on to the 100b, I just have to find a way to make it work.
I'll look into your suggestions on the deck you mentioned.
Mark
circumlocution
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The recording date and time (and other info such as the camera settings) are stored "invisibly" in the DV data stream, so you can use software to burn-in the date and time to the captured DV files. This effectively copies the hidden info into the visible area of the video frames. It doesn't matter what the camera's display settings are, this invisible info is always present.
For example DVMP Pro can burn in the recording date and time, shutter speed, white balance etc... but it only runs on windows. A new version is due out soon which also works for HDV format.
http://www.dvmp.co.uk
This means you don't have to record the analog output of the camera to another deck. You can just record to tape as usual and just burn-in the date to whatever captured files you choose. It also lets you view the date and time (in real time) as you play the DV files so you can watch the footage on your PC screen with the date and time and other "invisible" info displayed alongside.
But I'm not sure of the legal position of burning-in using software rather than at the actual time that the recording is taking place.
For example DVMP Pro can burn in the recording date and time, shutter speed, white balance etc... but it only runs on windows. A new version is due out soon which also works for HDV format.
http://www.dvmp.co.uk
This means you don't have to record the analog output of the camera to another deck. You can just record to tape as usual and just burn-in the date to whatever captured files you choose. It also lets you view the date and time (in real time) as you play the DV files so you can watch the footage on your PC screen with the date and time and other "invisible" info displayed alongside.
But I'm not sure of the legal position of burning-in using software rather than at the actual time that the recording is taking place.