Blackmagic Design H.264 PRO Recorder

I'm not sure if that is a robust system.

Now it would be great if BlackMagic would customize a laptop with and internal capture codec card in a Linux OS for ~$1000. Now that would be a great solution!
 
Who needs another h.264 recording? 10 bit out of the camera I can understand, AVC I 10 bit recording I could understand, . H.264 I don't.
 
Mark Smith said:
Who needs another h.264 recording? 10 bit out of the camera I can understand, AVC I 10 bit recording I could understand, . H.264 I don't.
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It is actually the same thing. AVCintra and AVCCAM uses H.264 codec.

I see this product as a mayor competitor for the price point. With the netops available its no problem any more to have a dedicatet computer as a recording media.

Its how they will implement the H.264 codec that makes me wonder. Also the Bitdeph is not defined. 8bit, 10bit?

Either way 400 bucks for this, 200 bucks for a second hand netop and 200 for an externarl hard disk and you are ready for 4:2:2 color.

For $800 i dont recall any 4:2:2 recorder, and directly on too a hard disk ready for edition.

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The problem is that it's H.264, which isn't friendly for editing. You'd still have to transcode to something like ProRes 422 HQ for editing. So yes, you get 422, but you still lose a generation in the process. You're also relying on the computer's processor to capture the footage, which could potentially result in dropped frames because the processor could start doing some other task. It's always better to have a dedicated recorder that's designed for recording in the field.
 
I heard January 15 ship date from a UK seller for the Ninja. Too bad - I wanted one for precisely that date!
 
Specs

Specs

HD Format Support 720p50, 720p59.94, 720p60, 1080PsF23.98, 1080p23.98, 1080PsF24, 1080p24, 1080PsF25, 1080p25, 1080PsF29.97, 1080p29.97, 1080PsF30, 1080p30, 1080i50, 1080p50, 1080i59.94, 1080p59.94, 1080i60, and 1080p60. SD Format Support 625/25 PAL, 525/29.97 NTSC and 480p. SDI Compliance SMPTE 259M and 292. Multiple Rate support SDI, HDMI and component analog video connections are switchable between standard definition and high definition. SDI switches between 270 Mb/s standard definition SDI, 1.5 Gb/s HD-SDI and 3 Gb/s HD-SDI. Video Sampling 4:2:2 Color Precision 12 bit Color Space 4:2:2 YUV Audio Sampling Television standard sample rate of 48 kHz and 24 bit. HDMI Color Precision 12 bit Copy Protection



 For legal reasons HDMI input is unable to capture from copy protected HDMI sources. Always confirm copyright ownership before capture or distribution of content.
 
Mike@AF said:
The problem is that it's H.264, which isn't friendly for editing. You'd still have to transcode to something like ProRes 422 HQ for editing. So yes, you get 422, but you still lose a generation in the process. You're also relying on the computer's processor to capture the footage, which could potentially result in dropped frames because the processor could start doing some other task.
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In practice, none of this is a problem any longer with Win7 or OSX on a 2GHhz Intel i7 laptop. Unlike the consumer USB dongle version, the Blackmagic H.264 PRO does AVC in 4:2:2 10-bit color. If you're not using FCP, there's no reason to prefer ProRes over High422P AVC.
 
Danielvilliers said:
Was supposed to come out last month .......
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and last July and January. It is now 1 year since it's announcement. I did like the concept. But with the Ninja and Samurai being true recorders (this item's name is misleading) at attractive prices, this item has lost it's appeal.
 
You understand that virtually all 1080p Bluray disk content today is compressed in H.264 right? If it's good enough for Hollywood, then it's darn good enough for me.
 
We don't know the bit-rate for now. We have seen the avchd at 24 mbit that is very good for the compression, if it can record at much higher data-rate it could be very good.
 
This is seemingly out now. Available instock at Adorama, and they actually have a full tech spec sheet on the BM site.
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/h264prorecorder/techspecs/

I'm really interested in this product, because my major delivery format is to laptops that playback video and web. I would anticipate MUCH smaller file sizes than a 50min ProResLT recording (40GB). At 30mb/s full H264, you'd get a 10GB file, which alone is much more managable. Also, if going straight to delivery, lower bitrates maybe perfectly acceptable.
 
So, no interest in this item anymore? I'll probably be getting one in the next 4-6 months. I'll post here on how well it works.
 
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