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and don't offload, edit from the SSD

No?

Theoretically, yes actually. Shouldn't be much reason why you couldn't plug the camera into the wall, thunderbolt out and cut directly from the drive. Not sure how efficiently it would work with CinemaDNG files but ProRes etc? Should totally work.
 
I've had issues with Windows and a RED Station (Mag offloader), as well. Same kind of thing, restart to fix it. Mac, no issue. Not sure how MacDrive will work with it...

yeah. One of windows ugly problems - this is on win 7-64. And their on to win 8 now? sheesh .
 
Ive used these, and usb 3 versions . The Danger is, when you plug in a drive, windows may not read it correctly!

Then windows asks DO YOU WANT TO FORMAT THIS DRIVE! WTF?!

Immediately power down, then reboot to attempt to fix this. usually a boot, or two, will get it to read. Its tempting at first to try and fiddle with the screens, this can brick the drive. { or lose all data}

Thats my experience,__ not sure how macdrive will complicate this scenario. { I guess its a windows
problem? Maybe somebody knows? }

I have had a Shuttle2 for a very short time and using MacDrive allows me to view and manipulate the drive any time it is plugged directly (via an external SSD dock). MacDrive also formats the SSD properly for me by selecting the Format Drive option. Using MacDrive is very seamless and transparent and it was only $50.00.

If you don't have MacDrive installed, as it sounds from your problem description, Windows is just not recognizing the Mac format and thinks the drive is blank and unformatted. MacDrive eliminates this problem completely for me.
 
I wouldn't get a USB based external drive holder, I would get an eSATA model like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817392022

Most of the recent SATA docks have all 3 interfaces (Firewire, USB 3 and eSATA). If you go with USB3 (which is more than adequate for transferring large files), your motherboard (or add on PCIe USB3 card) must provide enough power through the USB port or the dock will drop down to USB 2 speeds.
 
I have had a Shuttle2 for a very short time and using MacDrive allows me to view and manipulate the drive any time it is plugged directly (via an external SSD dock). MacDrive also formats the SSD properly for me by selecting the Format Drive option. Using MacDrive is very seamless and transparent and it was only $50.00.

If you don't have MacDrive installed, as it sounds from your problem description, Windows is just not recognizing the Mac format and thinks the drive is blank and unformatted. MacDrive eliminates this problem completely for me.

I think you misunderstand. I havent used macdrive yet. Windows is not properly reading the WINDOWS formatted drive.
 
How would a Macbook Air with the 1.7 i5s run Ultrascopes? I was looking at the website and it has a resolution minimum but I did not see a hardware min? While looking I didnt find any requirements for Resolve either? Looking at a new laptop when I get this badboy. My 2008 17'' MBP doesn't have thunderbolt and I wouldnt mind having a lighter smaller machine
 
Ive used these, and usb 3 versions . The Danger is, when you plug in a drive, windows may not read it correctly!

Then windows asks DO YOU WANT TO FORMAT THIS DRIVE! WTF?!

Immediately power down, then reboot to attempt to fix this. usually a boot, or two, will get it to read. Its tempting at first to try and fiddle with the screens, this can brick the drive. { or lose all data}

Thats my experience,__ not sure how macdrive will complicate this scenario. { I guess its a windows
problem? Maybe somebody knows? }

I think you misunderstand. I havent used macdrive yet. Windows is not properly reading the WINDOWS formatted drive.

Sorry. I did misunderstand.
 
How would a Macbook Air with the 1.7 i5s run Ultrascopes? I was looking at the website and it has a resolution minimum but I did not see a hardware min? While looking I didnt find any requirements for Resolve either? Looking at a new laptop when I get this badboy. My 2008 17'' MBP doesn't have thunderbolt and I wouldnt mind having a lighter smaller machine

Pretty strong rumors indicate that new MBAs and a smaller sized MacBook Pro (ala Air size) will ship with the next few weeks.

Question becomes whether the slimmer MBP will use the integrated Intel 4000 graphic chip, or a discrete graphic chip, and of course, what resolutions will be supported.

Rumor further has it the MBP slim will incorporate the retina display capabilities of the iPad 3.
 
and don't offload, edit from the SSD

No?

Maybe I should have explained why I personally don't directly edit from the same SSD that would be in either a recorder or the camera. SSDs are quiet, fast and have no moving parts. They are generally considered to be reliable, especially the high end enterprise SSDs. But SSDs have now been in widespread use on the desktop for about two years. One thing that has been noticed is that they do fail and when that happens, they often go into a pre-programmed "panic mode", rendering the SSD useless.

The camera's SSD will be constantly and completely written and rewritten, unless you want to buy a bushel of SSDs. Given that, a heavily used SSD is far more likely to fail than a drive (either SSD or HDD) in your laptop or desktop that is just used for storage or editing. One of my workstations used an SSD as its Windows 7 boot drive and after approximately 16 months, it began to fail with BSODs. After searching the Internet, I found that the problem was not a rarity. Suit yourself, but that's my advice.
 
Pretty strong rumors indicate that new MBAs and a smaller sized MacBook Pro (ala Air size) will ship with the next few weeks.

Question becomes whether the slimmer MBP will use the integrated Intel 4000 graphic chip, or a discrete graphic chip, and of course, what resolutions will be supported.

Rumor further has it the MBP slim will incorporate the retina display capabilities of the iPad 3.

I may be investing in one of the tiny MacBook Pros... ugh.. but it sounds like it's about time.
 
Maybe I should have explained why I personally don't directly edit from the same SSD that would be in either a recorder or the camera. SSDs are quiet, fast and have no moving parts. They are generally considered to be reliable, especially the high end enterprise SSDs. But SSDs have now been in widespread use on the desktop for about two years. One thing that has been noticed is that they do fail and when that happens, they often go into a pre-programmed "panic mode", rendering the SSD useless.

The camera's SSD will be constantly and completely written and rewritten, unless you want to buy a bushel of SSDs. Given that, a heavily used SSD is far more likely to fail than a drive (either SSD or HDD) in your laptop or desktop that is just used for storage or editing. One of my workstations used an SSD as its Windows 7 boot drive and after approximately 16 months, it began to fail with BSODs. After searching the Internet, I found that the problem was not a rarity. Suit yourself, but that's my advice.

Good point. I think SSD tech. is still new enough that we are still in a learning process regarding it.
 
Pretty strong rumors indicate that new MBAs and a smaller sized MacBook Pro (ala Air size) will ship with the next few weeks.

Question becomes whether the slimmer MBP will use the integrated Intel 4000 graphic chip, or a discrete graphic chip, and of course, what resolutions will be supported.

Rumor further has it the MBP slim will incorporate the retina display capabilities of the iPad 3.

But where are the Mac Pro's with Thunderbolt? I've been waiting almost a year for those.
 
As has been repeatedly stated in this thread, do not post links or embed videos related to Hitler parodies.

They will be deleted.

Thanks.
 
I can't be arsed dealing with raw footage, so I've got an even better idea - shoot ProRes to one large SSD and don't worry about offloading any footage until the end of the day.

Perfect disaster recipe. :thumbsup:
If the drive acts up ( and yeah, just because they have no moving parts, that doesn´t mean they don´t fail) you loose a complete day of material.

If you shoot your friends skateboarding, that might not be that big of a problem, but if you are on a set wit actors and all.....
I might be a bit paranoid, but I change my media after every scene. I buy only small drives and SD cards because of that.
I don´t understand the problem of swapping out media (as long as you don´t shoot concerts - but that´s an other story) - it just a matter of seconds.

So what´s the point?

A lot of folks think, all they need is a Mac Laptop and Resolve and that they can download the footy via Thunderbolt from the camera on the Laptop and start editing.
Technically that can be done, but its no fun.
Resolve is a GPU hog and to have it run smooth, you need two macho Nvidia graphic cards and a quad i7 processor in a desktop workstation.
Also dumping the files from the camera - your slowest drive is the bottleneck. So be prepared to buy a Thunderbolt RAID system.
 
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Perfect disaster recipe. :thumbsup:
If the drive acts up ( and yeah, just because they have no moving parts, that doesn´t mean they don´t fail) you loose a complete day of material.

If you shoot your friends skateboarding, that might not be that big of a problem, but if you are on a set wit actors and all.....
I might be a bit paranoid, but I change my media after every scene. I buy only small drives and SD cards because of that.
I don´t understand the problem of swapping out media (as long as you don´t shoot concerts - but that´s an other story) - it just a matter of seconds.

So what´s the point?

A lot of folks think, all they need is a Mac Laptop and Resolve and that they can download the footy via Thunderbolt from the camera on the Laptop and start editing.
Technically that can be done, but its no fun.
Resolve is a GPU hog and to have it run smooth, you need to macho graphic cards and a quad i7 processor in a desktop workstation.
Also dumping the files from the camera - your slowest drive is the bottleneck. So be prepared to buy a Thunderbolt RAID system.

One thing that I think has been totally overlooked so far is the need for proper archiving. Storing the massive amounts of data that this camera will generate is not trivial. You are asking for problems if you archive your material to hard disk. The only reliable long term storage at present is LTO-5 tape (HP tape is rated at 30 year lifespan). If you are on the Mac, the best backup software is Bru PE http://www.tolisgroup.com/home.php

Although LTO drives are expensive, they are well worth the piece of mind. After taking so much time, effort & care with our projects it seems insane to risk anything less. Also, once you have the drive, the price of the tapes per GB of storage is pretty economical.

Adam
 
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and don't offload, edit from the SSD

No?




Maybe I should have explained why I personally don't directly edit from the same SSD that would be in either a recorder or the camera. SSDs are quiet, fast and have no moving parts. They are generally considered to be reliable, especially the high end enterprise SSDs. But SSDs have now been in widespread use on the desktop for about two years. One thing that has been noticed is that they do fail and when that happens, they often go into a pre-programmed "panic mode", rendering the SSD useless.

The camera's SSD will be constantly and completely written and rewritten, unless you want to buy a bushel of SSDs. Given that, a heavily used SSD is far more likely to fail than a drive (either SSD or HDD) in your laptop or desktop that is just used for storage or editing. One of my workstations used an SSD as its Windows 7 boot drive and after approximately 16 months, it began to fail with BSODs. After searching the Internet, I found that the problem was not a rarity. Suit yourself, but that's my advice.

but I change my media after every scene. I buy only small drives and SD cards because of that.
I don´t understand the problem of swapping out media (as long as you don´t shoot concerts - but that´s an other story) - it just a matter of seconds.

The only reliable long term storage at present is LTO-5 tape (HP tape is rated at 30 year lifespan). If you are on the Mac, the best backup software is Bru PEhttp://www.tolisgroup.com/home.php

Thank's for the advices
 
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