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OK, I pre-ordered the camera from Markertek.
I have a workflow question that perhaps somebody can answer. I have a Macbook Pro, but it's a 2007 and doesn't have Thunderbolt. How will I get the footage from the camera to the computer?
Or to ask a more general question, how will people get their footage off the SSD if they don't send it out the Thunderbolt output of the camera?
 
dvbrother said:
OK, I pre-ordered the camera from Markertek.
I have a workflow question that perhaps somebody can answer. I have a Macbook Pro, but it's a 2007 and doesn't have Thunderbolt. How will I get the footage from the camera to the computer?
Or to ask a more general question, how will people get their footage off the SSD if they don't send it out the Thunderbolt output of the camera?
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I have a device I just put a naked SSD in, that's what I would use:

http://www.amazon.com/Diablotek-EN3525D-Drive-Docking-Station/dp/B00346I5LI
 
"I have a device I just put a naked SSD in, that's what I would use:
http://www.amazon.com/Diablotek-EN35.../dp/B00346I5LI"

The first comment said that it took 20 hours to transfer 500gb. That may not be a practical solution here.
 
mail4joeg said:
"I have a device I just put a naked SSD in, that's what I would use:
http://www.amazon.com/Diablotek-EN35.../dp/B00346I5LI"

The first comment said that it took 20 hours to transfer 500gb. That may not be a practical solution here.
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Was just showing an example of what one looked like, there are MANY varieties and interconnect options...DEFINITELY do some research on which work best! :)
 
As long as motion pictures have been made with cameras, there have been trade-offs when choosing tools. Mitchell cameras were cheaper to rent, but you couldn't look through the lens. Old Arris were light and nimble, but had more gate weave than bulky Panavision. And don't forget film stocks. Fuji was cheaper, but leaned green. Kodak started making amazing fast stocks, but the cost was in added grain.

Why should it be any different now? Any camera or image-making gear is an excercise in coping, adjusting and weighing benefits. For some folks, a sensor smaller than 65mm VistaVision is a deal-breaker. They won't be buying the BMDCC. For others, they will put up with rolling shutter and left-handed cable inputs to get 12-bit uncompressed RAW for $3k.

Let's not waste anymore vilifying the camera because of shortcomings. Instead, let's share how we're going to make the best of it -- including waiting for the next generation.

P.S. -- Yes, I believe contacting BMD with your complaints is a viable coping mechanism. Whining (Whinging) is not.

My $.02. YMMV.
 
Rick Burnett said:
I took the lens off thinking that would be 0mm lens, but the image didn't look good. What should I do? I want 180 degree angle? Hehe...sorry, couldn't resist. And great contribution!
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You're doing it wrong. Take that nice, expensive 7-14mm zoom lens and pound it with a hammer until it is 0mm thick.

I'll wait...:grin:
 
dcloud said:
is there a way to dump files through thunderbolt to laptop? :D
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I, too, would like to know if this is possible:
  1. Shoot footage
  2. Plug camera into laptop via Thunderbolt
  3. Transfer footage without removing SSD drive from camera.


Better yet:
  1. Shoot footage
  2. Plug camera into external Thunderbolt drive directly with no laptop
  3. Transfer footage

I know most folks would rather swap SSDs in the camera (shoot with one SSD while transferring footage from the other) but I can picture several situations where this would be a lifesaver.
 
Jaime Valles said:
I, too, would like to know if this is possible:
  1. Shoot footage
  2. Plug camera into laptop via Thunderbolt
  3. Transfer footage without removing SSD drive from camera.


Better yet:
  1. Shoot footage
  2. Plug camera into external Thunderbolt drive directly with no laptop
  3. Transfer footage

I know most folks would rather swap SSDs in the camera (shoot with one SSD while transferring footage from the other) but I can picture several situations where this would be a lifesaver.
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Will add this to the FAQ, but option one is yes.

Option two, the camera would need to be able to interface with a thunderbolt external, but it would actually be a very cool addition to the feature set. Being able to have a thunderbolt pocket drive hanging around and no laptop needed to transfer. Granted, I'd be a LITTLE freaked out because, well, how do you verify that the information transferred properly without seeing it?

But, it would be a neat option, nonetheless.
 
dvbrother said:
OK, I pre-ordered the camera from Markertek.
I have a workflow question that perhaps somebody can answer. I have a Macbook Pro, but it's a 2007 and doesn't have Thunderbolt. How will I get the footage from the camera to the computer?
Or to ask a more general question, how will people get their footage off the SSD if they don't send it out the Thunderbolt output of the camera?
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I have a SSD Mounting cable that goes to USB.

The SSD pops out of the camera and mounts on my desktop.

jb
 
jabloomf1230 said:
If you want to shoot 12 bit RAW (and who doesn't?), you can get some idea from looking on the BMD support site at the SSD FAQ for the Hyperdeck series. I'm sure that this list will change for the Cinema Camera, but be advised that some SSDs claim lightning fast write speeds, which are actually accomplished with technological "smoke and mirrors". I've been using Crucial 256GB C300 SSDs (the older model than the M4) and they work great (meaning, no dropped frames). Pretty much any 2.5" SSD will work in ProRes or DNxHD mode. You can test your existing stable of SSDs with the BMD Speedtest utility.
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This is good advice.

BMD have told me a lot of SSD's aren't true to spec, or are only true when recording "empty files". They have this experience front he Hyperdeck. Their recommendations matter in this case.

jb
 
Isaac_Brody said:
I use the BlackX Duet from Thermaltake for offloading harddrives that supports e-sata. These work fairly well:

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Products.aspx?S=1268

I just noticed that they now have ones supporting USB 3.0 so that should definitely transfer much quicker on newer laptops natively USB 3.0.
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Ive used these, and usb 3 versions . The Danger is, when you plug in a drive, windows may not read it correctly!

Then windows asks DO YOU WANT TO FORMAT THIS DRIVE! WTF?!

Immediately power down, then reboot to attempt to fix this. usually a boot, or two, will get it to read. Its tempting at first to try and fiddle with the screens, this can brick the drive. { or lose all data}

Thats my experience,__ not sure how macdrive will complicate this scenario. { I guess its a windows
problem? Maybe somebody knows? }
 
I've had issues with Windows and a RED Station (Mag offloader), as well. Same kind of thing, restart to fix it. Mac, no issue. Not sure how MacDrive will work with it...
 
Jaime Valles said:
I know most folks would rather swap SSDs in the camera (shoot with one SSD while transferring footage from the other) but I can picture several situations where this would be a lifesaver.
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I can't be arsed dealing with raw footage, so I've got an even better idea - shoot ProRes to one large SSD and don't worry about offloading any footage until the end of the day.
 
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